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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Seems he aint dead.... oh well..
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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Seems he aint dead.... oh well..
    I saw Meet the Press yesterday and Gen. Jim Jones said they were 90% sure he was dead. We also have reports that there is infighting among factions for leadership, which probably would not happen unless he was dead.

    Deadly shootout at Taliban talks
    A number of senior Pakistani Taliban figures have been killed and others injured after a gun battle at a meeting in South Waziristan, sources have told Al Jazeera.

    The meeting had apparently been called to choose a successor to Baitullah Mehsud, the Taliban leader reportedly killed in a US missile attack earlier in the week.

    "We can confirm that the clash took place and that would indicate a serious rift in the Pakistani Taliban," Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder, reporting from the capital, Islamabad, said.


    "It is also yet another indicator that Baitullah Mehsud may have been killed in that attack carried out by US drones."

    Reports on Saturday said that both Hakimullah Meshud and Wali ur Rehman, two possible successors to Baitullah Mehsud, had been killed in the shooting.

    But on Sunday, Wali ur Rehman purportedly told the Reuters news agency by telephone that there had been no shootout and they were both alive.

    "There are no differences. There was no fighting. We both are alive, and there was no special shura meeting," he was reported as saying....
    Syer Tariq Pirzada, a strategic affairs analyst in Islamabad, told Al Jazeera that the reported shootout strongly indicated that Baitullah Mehsud was "dead or functionally dead".

    "Had he been alive, he was such a strong leader, he would not have allowed this dissent, this discord and this violent confrontation ... to happen," he said.

    Earlier on Saturday, Hakimullah Mehsud had told reporters by telephone that Baitullah Mehsud was in good health and would soon appear in the media to prove that he was alive.

    Mahmood Shah, a former security chief for the tribal regions, said that Hakimullah Mehsud's claims could have been part of the power struggle within the movement.

    "I think that this denial from them ... doesn't appear to be holding much water," he said. "It should have come earlier and ... much stronger."

    "There is, I think, a struggle going on for the leadership, and Hakimullah Mehsud is one of the contenders."


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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Seems he aint dead.... oh well..
    where do you see that?

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Benzin388 View Post
    I'm really confused by your post as a whole. Quite a few contradicting ideas if you ask me. First you want us to continue killing "OBL" and "AQ" but you insist on doing it outside of Afghanistan.
    Correct me if Iím wrong but OBL and AQ havenít been in Afghanistan since early 2002 correct?

    How should we go about accomplishing this task then?
    How about invading the area of Pakistan where OBL and AQ are at with Special Operations and using our high tech air force to target and obliterate them once and for all, then going home. How about not letting Muslims dictate and control the battlefield anymore!

    WhatÖdo you enjoy the double game being played by Pakistan and the billions of dollars we have squandered away since 2001? Meanwhile, instead of funding the F-22 program, we cut it in favor of giving more billions of dollars to Pakistan.

    You dont want us to destroy the Taliban b/c IYO 75% of the Muslim world are savages brainwashed into strapping semtex to their chests and walking into an elementry schools built from the hearts, minds and $$ of the American tax-payers....really mis-informed there my friend.
    Not quite. Where did you get the part about 75 percent of the Muslim world are savages? You have a very creative mind very typical of liberals! What I said is we would have to kill about 75 percent of the Muslims living in both Afghanistan and Pakistan if we want to eliminate the Taliban. Not all the indigenous Muslims over there belong to the Taliban. Nevertheless, I can assure you that Iím not nearly as naÔve as you obviously are with respect to the region and with respect to Islam, and furthermore, what will killing the Taliban solve? Correct me if I'm wrong but it was OBL and AQ that were responsible for 9/11 and not the Taliban!

    In any event, can you please explain to me why Bush like a liberal political correct multicultural loon jumped into the middle of a civil war (jihad) between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan in 2001, instead of focusing and concentrating only on killing, obliterating, and exterminating OBL and AQ for 9/11?

    Hell, Mullah Omar the leader of the Taliban didnít even know what OBL and AQ were up to beforehand. Indeed, after the 9/11 Islamic terrorist attack even when Mullah Omar confronted OBL about the 9/11 attacks, OBL lied about it to his face!

    Had Bush not sidetracked us by needlessly getting us caught up in the middle of a civil war in Afghanistan we had no business getting involved in, OBL and AQ would be dead today since they never would have escaped to begin with.

    In your clueless opinion, what business did Bush have jumping into the middle of a civil war and getting us stuck in a quagmire in Afghanistan? And why in the hell have we been stuck over there for 8 long ass years pursuing a silly fantasy based political correct multicultural nation-building mission that is predestined to fail no matter what, and what the hell does it have to do with getting retribution for 9/11 by killing OBL and AQ?

    The reality is the whole idiotic idea behind the Bush administrationís reasoning is that the root cause of Islamic terrorism is poverty, hopelessness, and despair, and that is about as ludicrous and leftwing as it gets.

    Indeed, if that is true, then why arenít all the other myriads of populations besides Muslims also perpetuating terrorist attacks around the world? Itís because poverty, hopelessness, and despair has nothing whatsoever to do with Islamic terrorist attacks or the global jihad! Only self-hating loons could be dumb enough to believe that garbage!

    Indeed, you seem to be about as confused and as conservative as Bush was. In other words, you are a bleeding heart liberal and just as political correct multicultural as he is.

    But then you go on to say that you feel we should target the high-level religious leaders of Iran and the government of Fraud introducing an unprovoked war with a country desperetly attempting to aquire nuclear weapons and another with one of the strongest positions in the oil market to date......I bet you were against the war in Iraq too
    Actually, I fully supported the war to oust Saddam Hussein. Nevertheless, why in the hell did we have to occupy Iraq after Saddam was ousted and Iraq had been scoured for WMD to pursue a silly fantasy based nation building mission seeking to win the hearts and minds of Muslims who are obligated to hate our guts, per their religion, no matter what we do for them and thus the mission was predestined to fail no matter what?

    Whatís wrong with accomplishing our mission, going home, and leaving our death and destruction behind to fester and to serve as a constant reminder of what happens when you cross America?

    I hate to rain on your naÔve parade, but GWB is responsible for the two biggest strategic blunders ever in the history of the USA and is one of the worse presidents of all time. Which is exactly what happens when the Republican Party allows leftists to hijack and co-opt their party and turn it into the second coming of the Dhimmicrat Party.

    With respect to the rest of your post, itís all garbage, and itís clear that like Bush you are not only clueless, but you are just as phony as he is!

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    THIS is how the Afghan war should have been prosecuted 8 years ago. Guess it proves once again that while Republicans are best at talking about war, it takes a Democrat to actually prosecute one.
    By the way, other than Bush, who doesnít have a conservative bone in his bleeding heart liberal body, when did Republicans screw up a war? Donít you really mean RINO neo-conservatives instead?

    And please donít make me laugh; the Dhimmicrats are too incompetent to run the government without screwing it up much less prosecute a war without screwing it up! Indeed, the only thing the Dhimmicrats are good at is ignoring and minimizing threats while gutting the military at the same time they bankrupt the country!

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbeaux View Post

    And please donít make me laugh; the Dhimmicrats are too incompetent to run the government without screwing it up much less prosecute a war without screwing it up! Indeed, the only thing the Dhimmicrats are good at is ignoring and minimizing threats while gutting the military at the same time they bankrupt the country!
    The Obama administration thus far has done nothing to warrant your charge of "incompetence". You are parroting the rightwing mantra of ridiculing anything that is not Republican.
    Oh, you want another war screwed up by Republicans? How about Iraq?

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The Obama administration thus far has done nothing to warrant your charge of "incompetence". You are parroting the rightwing mantra of ridiculing anything that is not Republican.
    Oh, you want another war screwed up by Republicans? How about Iraq?
    A war screwed up by the Republicans or one screwed up by the Democrats, what's the real difference? Obama's administration is one of double speak and lies, why anyone would trust this Bush clone, I wouldn't know. Aren't people saying now that speaking out against his healthcare is unamerican? I remember that ploy.

    I hope this dude is really dead, more dead terrorists ain't necessarily bad. But we should be careful with what it is that we're doing in the area and how it's impacting the overall "WoT".
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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    A war screwed up by the Republicans or one screwed up by the Democrats, what's the real difference?
    Ah yes, because we all know that wars are never screwed up and always well managed right?

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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    where do you see that?
    It is all over the news.

    There are conflicting reports of his death and as long as that is happening then we must assume he is alive or face another pie in the face moment in claiming someone is dead.

    Dont get me wrong, I hope the bastard is dead, but the very fact that people are in doubt must put in question the "he is dead" idea.

    Yea there are reports of infighting, but is that because he is dead, wounded or someone doing a power play because of the massive losses the Pakistani Taliban have been getting? The theories are rampant and there is nothing concrete.
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    Re: Pakistan Taliban Leader Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Obama's administration is one of double speak and lies,
    What administration doesn't use double speak?

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