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    Re: Clinton Threatens Eritrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Somalia had a secular government only 20 years ago.
    Somalia had a DICTATOR 20 years ago who was forcing secularism on a Muslim community who did not want it and who started off this whole mess by placing his clan above everyone else especially in the North which led to the civil war
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    Re: Clinton Threatens Eritrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Somalia had a functioning government with the rule of law just 20 years ago. I find it difficult to believe that this problem will never resolve itself. No nation can remain an anarchy forever; such a political system is inherently unstable by definition.

    They've been fighting over that scrap of land for over a century. It's hardly an indisputable fact that it "belongs to Somalia" as you claim. Anyway, Ethiopia certainly won't hand it over until Somalia stabilizes itself. To whom exactly would Ethiopia give it back, anyway?

    Somalia's problems with terrorism, extremism, crime, and piracy have absolutely nothing to do with Ethiopia's actions. They have to do with the fact that Somalia has no functioning government, and such an environment BREEDS terrorism, extremism, crime, and piracy.
    Somalia had a dictator 20 years ago,
    I know Somalis in the south will not figure this out for about another century.
    That is the power of clans inside that region.

    But it is, The British made a back alley deal with Ethiopia without our permission.
    Horn of Africa's history goes back thousands of years, it used to be known as the 'Land of Punt' - Shipping haven to many empires and there are well documented proof that Ogaden used to be part of Somalia. As was Dijoubti, Eitrea, Somaliland, Kenya. The ENTIRE HOA Region was which it why it holds within each country large groups of ethnically Somali and Muslim populations.

    Somalia has no functioning Government because no one group has established control and they do not wish for peace yet otherwise they'd drop clans but they haven't
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    Re: Clinton Threatens Eritrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Somalia had a DICTATOR 20 years ago who was forcing secularism on a Muslim community who did not want it and who started off this whole mess by placing his clan above everyone else especially in the North which led to the civil war
    Whatever the faults of their old system, it was a hell of a lot better than what they have now.
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    Re: Clinton Threatens Eritrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Somalia had a dictator 20 years ago,
    I know Somalis in the south will not figure this out for about another century.
    That is the power of clans inside that region.
    They had a reasonably competent dictator 20 years ago, and now they have an anarchy and one of the most hellish places on earth to live. Hardly an improvement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila
    But it is, The British made a back alley deal with Ethiopia without our permission.
    Horn of Africa's history goes back thousands of years, it used to be known as the 'Land of Punt' - Shipping haven to many empires and there are well documented proof that Ogaden used to be part of Somalia. As was Dijoubti, Eitrea, Somaliland, Kenya. The ENTIRE HOA Region was which it why it holds within each country large groups of ethnically Somali and Muslim populations.
    Yes, yes. A country got screwed over by some other country decades, centuries, or millennia ago. At some point, it's time to just let it go. Somalia needs to get its own house in order before it even THINKS about contesting territory from another country.

    Do you think that the people who live in Ogaden, Djibouti, Eritrea, Somaliland, or Kenya want to be a part of the mess that's happening in Somalia proper?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila
    Somalia has no functioning Government because no one group has established control and they do not wish for peace yet otherwise they'd drop clans but they haven't
    That's my point, no one has established control so there is no rule of law. And terrorism and crime breed in such an environment. The world needs to help Somalia deal with its security situation if Somalia is ever going to be rid of terrorism and piracy.
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    Re: Clinton Threatens Eritrea

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Before the talks on Thursday, Mrs Clinton honoured the victims of the August 1998 attacks on the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in a wreath-laying ceremony in Nairobi.

    More than 220 people were killed and 5,000 injured in the first major attack by al-Qaeda on US targets.

    AP news agency quoted her as saying that the embassy site was a reminder of "the continuing threat of terrorism, which respects no boundaries, no race, ethnicity or religion, but is aimed at disrupting and denying the opportunity of people to make their own decisions and to lead their own lives".

    BBC NEWS | Africa | Clinton threatens Eritrea action
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    Re: Clinton Threatens Eritrea

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    Whay are you displaying a Nazi symbol ? Is that becasue the Arabs/Muslins were on the side of the Germans during WW II - so it's for historical reasons???
    What the hell has that got to do with Arabs and Muslims? And anyway, off topic. PM me if you want to talk about it.
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