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Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

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Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list' | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Texas Politics | The Dallas Morning News

10:27 AM CDT on Thursday, August 6, 2009

FROM STAFF REPORTS

Texas Sen. John Cornyn, accusing the White House of compiling an "enemies list," has asked President Barack Obama to stop an effort to collect "fishy" information Americans see about a health care overhaul.

Cornyn, who leads the Republicans' Senate campaign effort, said Wednesday in a letter to Obama that he's concerned that citizen engagement on the issue could be "chilled." He also expressed alarm that the White House could end up collecting electronic information on its critics.

"I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward e-mails critical of his policies to the White House," Cornyn wrote.

It took the Dallas News to make this a Breaking News story.
It's time to wake up to the truth that this Obama person is modeling hie enemies list after the Nationalist Socialist party of Germany of 1919 to 1945.
Tome to flood the White House tip line with the Names of Liberals lying to us about the I Don't Care About Your Health Plan and Cap and Trade. And help stop this; flag@whitehouse.gov
 
Starting off with Godwin, eh?

Once again, he doesn't want to know who is spreading chain letters, he wants to know what the chain letters are say. God forbid the whitehouse try to keep a handle on what rumors are flying around
 
I don't get it. If Conservatives have nothing to hide, why are they so paranoid?
 
I don't get it. If Conservatives have nothing to hide, why are they so paranoid?

This is the very type of ridiculous blind disciple followers statement I expected of the uneducated Liberals and others who would doom us to a repeat of the Socialist activities of Germany until they were defeated in WWII. If you don't care what Obama does Just say so and Identify yourself as someone who doesn't care about the Constitution's Bill of Rights. I pray this is where it ends before it comes to this.

In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me —
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
 
I don't get it. If Conservatives have nothing to hide, why are they so paranoid?
Yeah, you don't get it.

How about if you give me the password to your email account. If you have nothing to hide, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
 
Yeah, you don't get it.

How about if you give me the password to your email account. If you have nothing to hide, it shouldn't be a problem, right?

Not the same thing, but nice attempt at stretching the truth though.
 
Well, if Senator Sen. John Cornyn says it, it must be true.
 
Do you have a point?

Yes, and i think i made it quite clear. You attempted to continue to pass misinformation on and i figured someone should stop the bull**** before it gets started. Here is what was asked.

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Now please pray tell how they are collecting an enemy list as the OP ridiculously claims?
 
Starting off with Godwin, eh?

Once again, he doesn't want to know who is spreading chain letters, he wants to know what the chain letters are say. God forbid the whitehouse try to keep a handle on what rumors are flying around

Once again....they want the letters forwarded to them....and that would include all the headers and sourcing information.

Duh!
 
Now please pray tell how they are collecting an enemy list as the OP ridiculously claims?

You do know that all kinds of identifying information is embedded in an email that is forwarded, correct?

Oh you didn't know that? Well no wonder you had such a half assed assessment of the situation.
 
I don't get it. If Conservatives have nothing to hide, why are they so paranoid?

I've always maintained that if you use this excuse, you want to do something illegal.
 
Yes, and i think i made it quite clear. You attempted to continue to pass misinformation on and i figured someone should stop the bull**** before it gets started. Here is what was asked.



Now please pray tell how they are collecting an enemy list as the OP ridiculously claims?
Compiling a list of emails, presumably with email addresses attached, of people who they believe may be spreading disinformation isn't compiling an enemies list? What legitimate purpose would they have in collecting such information? Further, even if their purpose is legitimate, how many times in recent memory has the government collected information and had it subsequently misused?

Try to be honest for a moment: what would you say if the Bush White House had done the same thing?
 
You do know that all kinds of identifying information is embedded in an email that is forwarded, correct?

Oh you didn't know that? Well no wonder you had such a half assed assessment of the situation.

Yeah damn near 10 years in the IT industry and i havent the slightest clue what information is contained in an email address. Give me a break.

Compiling a list of emails, presumably with email addresses attached, of people who they believe may be spreading disinformation isn't compiling an enemies list? What legitimate purpose would they have in collecting such information? Further, even if their purpose is legitimate, how many times in recent memory has the government collected information and had it subsequently misused?

Try to be honest for a moment: what would you say if the Bush White House had done the same thing?

That is the problem, NO ONE is compiling email addresses. As for legitimate purpose, there is A LOT of misinformation being passed around as truth scaring citizens half out of there mind. The Whitehouse would like to keep the swift boating to a minimum. In all honesty i would not have an issue if any adminstration keep the lies out of honest debate in moving the country forward.
 
Empty ignorant responses should be ignored but noted. These people lack the intellect to carry on intelligent discussions or to recognize the move under way to move this Nation away from the Democratic Republic that made it the Nation Obama wants to change in the manner of Dictatorship of the last Fuhrer.
Just compare what Obama is doing with the actions of (and I don't care what names you want to call me for telling the truth) Adolph Hitler, and point by point you will if you were honest to yourself see it. But then there is little chance of Honesty from Obama followers.
I don't need to give one of Obama's minions my email information as as they have had it for some time I get regular propaganda from the White House already because of my job.
 
Yeah damn near 10 years in the IT industry and i havent the slightest clue what information is contained in an email address. Give me a break.

Just calling it like I see it, pal. If what you say is true, it would have dawned on you immediately how dense your comment really was.
 
Who is surprised that ANYONE would want to know who is talking about them and specifically for the White House who is against their Health care bill?

If I am running a project I want to know who is publicly and privately rallying against me so I can talk with and try to persuade them to understand.
 
Empty ignorant responses should be ignored but noted. These people lack the intellect to carry on intelligent discussions or to recognize the move under way to move this Nation away from the Democratic Republic that made it the Nation Obama wants to change in the manner of Dictatorship of the last Fuhrer.
Just compare what Obama is doing with the actions of (and I don't care what names you want to call me for telling the truth) Adolph Hitler, and point by point you will if you were honest to yourself see it. But then there is little chance of Honesty from Obama followers.
I don't need to give one of Obama's minions my email information as as they have had it for some time I get regular propaganda from the White House already because of my job.

Again. You disagree with facts and therefore name call in stead of presenting a decent argument. boohoo. Go whine to someone who cares.
 
Again. You disagree with facts and therefore name call in stead of presenting a decent argument. boohoo. Go whine to someone who cares.
So you admit you care nothing for what other Americans think about Dear Leader's health care destruction agenda. Your way or the highway, is that what you want?
 
Yeah damn near 10 years in the IT industry and i havent the slightest clue what information is contained in an email address. Give me a break.

Then you need to explain why you believe gangsters like the Messiah handlers wouldn't use the information you know is being collected.

That is the problem, NO ONE is compiling email addresses.

And you know this because the DNC sent out an e-mail saying that's not what they're doing? If not that, explain your certainty.
 
The government already has a list of everyone's e mail address and all of their information including internet history and political party affiliation. Cornyn knows this for a fact.

Remember back when all of the liberals were mad about the NSA collecting e mails and internet traffic information on all Americans? Remember when conservatives said only traitors and terrorists have anything to worry about? Where was Cornyn?

Remember when just being an anti-war protester was enough to get you on the terror watch list or the no-fly list? Remember when the FBI infiltrated dozens of peace activist groups? Where was Cornyn?

There was a time when conservatives could have been outraged over government gathering information on us but that time was 8 years ago.

I see nothing harmful about this very public, legal and transparent gathering of a specific type of info, why did conservatives see nothing wrong with a secret, illegal, overly broad collection of information on all of us?

As far as I know the NSA still has the ability to spy on each and every one of us for whatever reason. As long as conservatives thought it only happened to liberals it was alright. Conservatives put these tools into the hands of the government and attempted to make it perfectly legal, time is long past to be suddenly outraged.
 
I pray this is where it ends before it comes to this.

In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me —
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

I'm guessing that you are a staunch defender of homosexual rights correct? For gay marriage?

I'm guessing that you're a staunch supporter of illegal immigrants having right sin this country yes? Allow them to have emergency medical coverage, go to school on our dime, etc?

I'm guessing you had no issues with war protesters and were staunch opponents of GWB's "free speech zones" and called them unamerican for questioning a president during a crisis other such things right?

You know because...

They came for the gay people,
and I did not speak up because I was not gay

Then they came after the illegal immigrants,
and I did not speak up because I was not illegal

Then they came after war protesters,
and I did not speak up because I supported the war

Then they came for me -

Do you realize that no matter how famous that idiotic bit of dribble is its so hypocritically overused its not even funny any longer?
 
Who is surprised that ANYONE would want to know who is talking about them and specifically for the White House who is against their Health care bill?

If I am running a project I want to know who is publicly and privately rallying against me so I can talk with and try to persuade them to understand.

We're talking Democrats here. What they'll do with this information is send hidden requests to the IRS to audit them, get their names on the TSA's Do Not Fly list, and research them to find other ways to destroy their lives, their businesses, and their careers.

One clear shot....climb the tree and see who sent off the major branches, and inform their employers that their computers are being used in an inappropriate manner the Messiah finds objectionable.
 
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