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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Everyone, I was just informed by the head agent at headquarters that once we have compiled everyone's personal information, I will be ordered to change all your passwords...muahahhahahaha

    Seriously, this is one of the dumbest of threads, sorry I just have to say that. This is delusional parania reaching unhealthy levels. People need to take a step back and use their noggins.

    The Communications Director for the White House simply asked for people who saw misleading information to have this passed on to them so they could know what is being said. What, not by who, WHAT.

    Do you get that, WHAT...not WHO....WHAT.

    So if you see a webpage, you can e-mail that. If you get an e-mail, you can forward that as well. There is no request for who. You can use a hotmail account to even send for god's sake. All they want to see is the subject, the what. You know, kind of like the certain B.S. just posted here an hour ago about government is now going to access your bank accounts?

    Think about the subject of this thread, maybe this belongs in..I don't know Conspiracy? No, because there is no conspiracy at work here. Everything is clearly there if people would just use their damn brains for once.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Everyone, I was just informed by the head agent at headquarters that once we have compiled everyone's personal information, I will be ordered to change all your passwords...muahahhahahaha

    Seriously, this is one of the dumbest of threads, sorry I just have to say that. This is delusional parania reaching unhealthy levels. People need to take a step back and use their noggins.

    The Communications Director for the White House simply asked for people who saw misleading information to have this passed on to them so they could know what is being said. What, not by who, WHAT.

    Do you get that, WHAT...not WHO....WHAT.

    So if you see a webpage, you can e-mail that. If you get an e-mail, you can forward that as well. There is no request for who. You can use a hotmail account to even send for god's sake. All they want to see is the subject, the what. You know, kind of like the certain B.S. just posted here an hour ago about government is now going to access your bank accounts?

    Think about the subject of this thread, maybe this belongs in..I don't know Conspiracy? No, because there is no conspiracy at work here. Everything is clearly there if people would just use their damn brains for once.
    Thank you Mr. Sam for that lovely treatise on how to wallow in uninformed bliss; now back to the thread topic.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Want to know what I think? No? OK, I will tell you anyways.

    1) Emails with purportedly false information are flying around. I have actually gotten a couple of them.
    I get the occasional e-mail pretending the Messiah is a good president, too.

    I just throw them away.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    2) I do not believe it is unreasonable to compile a list of the emails to see what kind of false information is in them.
    I do.

    The job of the President is to execute the nation's laws.

    What he's doing is using the office of the presidency to illegally engage in partisan research that is the responsibility of the Democrat party, not the taxpayers.

    That's a point I've not seen others raise.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    3) Unfortunately, email addresses are attached to emails, and they will also be collected.
    Don't be such a putz. It's not hard to discover the gist of any disinformation campaign, or in this case, a public service campaign revealing the crimes against humanity the Administration is proposing. The whole reason, the only reaseon, the White House wants the e-mails by the million is to collect the addresses.

    Unless you're willing to concede that the guy in the White House, and his staff, are complete fools, then the last thing they would want is millions of copies of three versions of the same e-mail.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    4) The alternative is to NOT look at what is being circulated about your programs, and to be kept in the dark.
    Oh, ab-so-lute-ly. There's just NO OTHER WAY to learn what the Americans are saying, you just have to demand millions of e-mail spam to find out. Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

    Keep saying that, eventually you'll beleive it's true.

    Maybe you people already do.



    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    5) The solution? Collect the emails and see what is in them.
    Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    6) As for the possibility that Obama is collecting an enemies list, I haven't seen any proof. Just a lot of speculation from people who have a political axe to grind.
    The proof is that they're collecting e-mails.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    7) But don't forget that, in America, everybody has a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of making stuff up.
    And they have the right to use the First Amendment without fear of reprisals.

    Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

    Just no other way.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What you call rumors are the attempt of some to state facts that don't exist. One of the emails that I got attempted to make the case that the elderly would be encouraged to commit assisted suicide under the Obama plan. It was idiotic, but that is what is was saying. I do not believe it is unreasonable for the Obama administration to collect these emails to see what is in them.
    Once again you wander away from the thread topic on some fantastical tirade about internet BS; but that wasn't what this debate is about is it?

    Instead, you prefer to blather about perceived hyper partisan right wingers.....AGAIN. Seems to be a theme with you; why is it you never rant about hyper partisan LEFT wingers? Don't answer that, you will just enter into a circle of futility and denial; it is patently obvious why you don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If Republicans want to be honest about the whole thing, all they have to do is address ONE issue - THE COST. Scare tactics and other dishonest means are not even necessary, but it seems that the Republican party has now completely lost its way, along with all its marbles.
    Honest? What on earth would you know about being honest?

    How ironic that you rail about Republican "scare tactics" when it happens to be the very topic of this thread about how the White House is using them.

    How ironic that you think it is just about the "cost" when it is also about the loss of choice, lack of care, mediocrity and LONG waiting lists.

    Yet it is this administration that lies to the people and says that the program may even SAVE more money than it costs through "efficiencies." Talk about a pile of nonsensical bile.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I remember, once upon a time, that the Republican party was a lean, mean, fighting machine that took no prisoners. Today, it is a broken down clunker, and the only sounds it now emits are the WHINING of gears. Should have traded it in under the cash for clunkers program before it was too late.
    Funny how your memory cannot be substantiated by facts or history; but again, you live in some ideological fantasy land where partisanship does not exist, the Republican Party was some kind of lean fighting machine (never existed in my lifetime and I am a LOT older) and where everyone agrees with you.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It's not the White House's job to respond to individual citizens opposed to their Big Brother plans.

    Are the far left extremists the people who opposed the PATRIOT Act on purely partisan and totally irrational grounds? Aren't they now defending the collection of private personal information by their Messiah?
    Whose job is it to respond to public political campaigns against White House policies?
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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    The message from the White House does not request people's names, it requests information on people's healthcare perspective so they can fight false claims. Nothing wrong with this, and there is no law to prevent it.

    If the names and email addresses forwarded to the WH are used in a manner to squash political speech, then that is a separate issue and will be dealt with accordingly. Any occurrence will surely become well known.

    As far as all the comparisons with previous presidents, if any president collects names in order to dispel free speech, whether Bush, Obama, or anyone, they are all wrong in that. Saying, "What about the other guy", is nothing but a distraction from the issue and a total cop out. May as well say, "I got nothing on this."
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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You mean "public outreach" like this one?

    Evidence of these angry mobs:
    Strawman. DNC campaign's have no connection to White House PR initiatives.
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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Whose job is it to respond to public political campaigns against White House policies?
    I would think that the answer would be obvious.

    The Electorate.

    This is why we have elections, and not coronations.
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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I would think that the answer would be obvious.

    The Electorate.

    This is why we have elections, and not coronations.
    So if there is false information being paraded around about legislature the politicians writing the legislature are required to rely on the populace to respond and cannot do so personally?
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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Whose job is it to respond to public political campaigns against White House policies?
    What “public political campaign” are you talking about? This is a grassroots effort at town hall meetings and on the internet.

    Gee, we wouldn't want people complaining about the efforts of this Administration to shove Government run healthcare down our throats now would we?

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