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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    That is the problem, NO ONE is compiling email addresses.
    Or so they say...I wouldn't put it past the government considering they tried to claim ownership of private computers under cash for clunkers (thankfully that plan backfired).

    But by compiling these emails...they ARE compiling the email addresses included with them...that's the point...

    Now to be fair there is nothing illegal here. The White House can request to get emails if it wants. But the situation is strange, and the intentions stated may not always be the actual intentions.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The whole idea of this flag@whitehouse.gov website is to frighten people out of stating their opinions in excursive of their right to free speech because the White House and the majority of Democrat Party have run into an informed public that knows more of the contents and pit falls within this Socialist plan than most if not all of Congress and Obama because we did the research and found the flaws that are all through it. In the effort they are lying about who is protesting at Town Hall meetings and why they are there.
    It's not lies Obama wants stopped it's the truth, because Obama and his minions are the ones spreading lies and they want to know how to blunt the truth of what is being said with more lies obfuscation and straw men. And now in this forum there are some who claim to be conservative that I believe are lending them aid in their quest.

    Okay. First off, they're not "flaws". A "flaw" is a mistake, and Democrats have never made a mistake, just ask the shrill shills paid to post here for them, or the mindless robots that do it for free.

    Also, just because something really really rotten has been discovered in the bill, it's wrong to assume that it's there accidentally, or that the people that wrote it weren't 100% aware of what it really means. They're going to pretend otherwise, but why believe them. Assume that the rationed end-of-life care is deliberate.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I do? Please show me where I accept this. Also, what does this have to do with the topic?
    Are you now claiming that the government that can't run a lemonade stand ISN'T trying to confiscate 1/6 of the US economy?

    Make up your mind.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To everybody:

    In order to debate, it is helpful to have the facts. The article from the Dallas morning news in the OP is about John Cornyn saying that an enemies list is being compiled, but the actual article on the White House blog is what you should be looking at.

    Here is the original article at the White House blog.

    I suggest that everybody, on BOTH sides of the issue, read it, and watch the 2 videos that are embedded there. After that, feel free to post what you believe it to be, and use any part of the link to back up what you are saying.

    For the record, the President has consistently said that if you like your insurance plan, your doctor, or both, you will be able to keep them. He has even proposed eight consumer protections relating specifically to the health insurance industry.
    For the record, your Messiah's done a lot of lying, so why should we allow ourselves to be suckered this time?

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Some people are erroneously fixating upon the intent behind the policy instead of the possibility of abuse which arises as a consequence of its implementation.

    Whether or not the government actually intends to collect the personal information of people found disseminating "misinformation" is irrelevant to the policy's legitimacy under the US Constitution.

    Identifying "misinformation" in regards to the President's health care agenda is not a sufficient justification for targeting political dissention. The mere possibility of abuse is enough to have a chilling affect on free-speech.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Some people are erroneously fixating upon the intent behind the policy instead of the possibility of abuse which arises as a consequence of its implementation.

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    Identifying "misinformation" in regards to the President's health care agenda is not a sufficient justification for targeting political dissention. The mere possibility of abuse is enough to have a chilling affect on free-speech.
    And indeed, upon pondering this more, chills went down my back... strong discomforting chills.

    I think of both: Why do this, what are their motives, and what are the implications of these actions.

    There are many shaking this off as "Oh they just want information so they can debunk "mis information"" - problem is, what exactly are doing with the information? Why don't they seek / respond to the information themselves instead of seeking out the people behind the perpetuation of said information - or relying on others to get the info for them? I'm not one to jump to conclusions, but at the same time when something fishy is going on, I ask "Hey, what the **** is going on?"
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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeTh!nk3r View Post
    there is A LOT of misinformation being passed around as truth scaring citizens half out of there mind..
    I can agree with that statement. Unfortunately for you and me the disinformation is coming from the whitehouse on many levels. Just look at the actions and dont listen to the words anymore.
    Thank you

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    The thing about Obama that has many people fearful, or at least me, is that while past presidents have done reprehensible things and should have/should be held accountable, Obama has done a lot of these very radical things in such a short period of time - not to mention the speed and careless nature of trying to get this stuff (Cap & Trade, the health care bill, etc)and on top of that, we don't know if we can trust their words as the real motive behind them wanting the information they seek on so-called disinformation spreaders, I sure as hell won't start crazy theories but I too am praying that the reasoning doesn't turn out to be that which would sent Orwell spinning in his grave.
    Well to that I say, let's pass out tinfoil hats to everyone. Again, how many times does this need to be repeated, by now it is like beating a dead horse. They are NOT, I repeat NOT asking for personal information. There is a big difference if they said tell us WHO is spreading disinformation. Wouldn't you say? They are asking for WHAT, not WHO.

    Some of this stuff is getting downright insane, and by that I mean the paranoid rantings in fear of this or that. Cap and trade, good example. Do people even realize that Cap and trade is not new? Do they? 1990 Clean Air Act everyone, so please take off your tinfoil. Healthcare reform? Well there you go, have you looked at any of the disinformation being spread? The kill granny campaign? Look at my previous post in this thread, that is debunked to hell. Or look at this:

    Republicans Propagating Falsehoods in Attacks on Health-Care Reform


    Read the article, look at the lies being spread, and then try to tell me that an administration that is in support of this should take no action in countering disinformation. Maybe she did not choose her words properly for some, for me it was clear as day. Regardless, no matter which way you spin this, there is no effort to collect or data mine people's information.

    At this point anyone left still believing this needs to head out for psychiatric care, for they are certainly suffering from paranoid delusions.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    I can agree with that statement. Unfortunately for you and me the disinformation is coming from the whitehouse on many levels. Just look at the actions and dont listen to the words anymore.
    Please do pray tell list the disinformation, you really think there is anything so egregious as Kill Granny euthanasia programs? Or how about today's B.S. that the right tried to propagate (that I shot down in .0001 seconds) the whole "Government will have access to your checking account".

    So if there is disinformation, please do list it.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Perhaps it would be important for BOTH sides to stop the theorizing until we hear more, as far as I know, your conjecture is just as much speculation as that which fuels the fears. How do we know that which they had not actually stated or implied, also considering the misleading that has and probably will continue to go on for the next 3 years. Blind paranoia is bad, but blind dismissal/acceptance is just as bad. Not worse, just as bad.
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