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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To everybody:

    In order to debate, it is helpful to have the facts. The article from the Dallas morning news in the OP is about John Cornyn saying that an enemies list is being compiled, but the actual article on the White House blog is what you should be looking at.

    Here is the original article at the White House blog.

    I suggest that everybody, on BOTH sides of the issue, read it, and watch the 2 videos that are embedded there. After that, feel free to post what you believe it to be, and use any part of the link to back up what you are saying.
    Wow, this must be the NEW Dan that falls for Government propaganda. However, let's look at Obama videos we are MORE concerned with where he is telling us what he REALLY thinks and not posturing for the cameras and LYING:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbXrSK_VfME"]YouTube - Barack Obama: I Want Universal Health Care, Not Private Insurance (2007) [Naked Emperor News][/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE&feature=related"]YouTube - Obama on single payer health insurance[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7wTDK-LwqE&feature=related"]YouTube - Obama On Single Payer Health Care[/ame]

    So with that, when this administration enters into a disinformation campaign to support the idea of "government" healthcare and wants people to send them links to those who disagree with them in a paranoid fashion, then people rightfully should be concerned about an "enemies list". That is, unless you are a kool-aid drinking all out Obamamaniac supporter.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Well there you go again Sam, using nonsensical hyperbolic bile in lieu of genuine honest debate; you never disappoint however.



    My, what a fascinatingly high self opinion you have of yourself without any evidence to support such a high self opinion.

    I suggest you read and comprehend the OP before attempting to rip anything but your credibility to shreds.

    When you do, please share with us how it is you have no problems with the Government trying to combat the opinions of the citizens instead of selling their program with honest facts and how you are more concerned with the potential "disinformation" out there than the "disinformation" being spewed by this Administration on this topic.

    Carry on.
    It is not as much a high opinion of myself, but rather a low opinion of people that either require themselves to lie, or people too freaking stupid to figure out the obvious, or people that are just confused because they did bother to actually read.

    Would you like a link? Want to watch it for yourself here?

    Now Senor Cornyn was, quoted:
    Texas Sen. John Cornyn, accusing the White House of compiling an "enemies list," has asked President Barack Obama to stop an effort to collect "fishy" information Americans see about a health care overhaul.

    Cornyn, who leads the Republicans' Senate campaign effort, said Wednesday in a letter to Obama that he's concerned that citizen engagement on the issue could be "chilled." He also expressed alarm that the White House could end up collecting electronic information on its critics.
    I think Sen. Cornyn may just win the douchiest Senator of the year award.

    Now the article goes on to state:
    Cornyn was responding to a post on the White House's blog Wednesday in which users are asked to help stop the spread of disinformation about legislation to overhaul health insurance. The post offers an e-mail address, flag@whitehouse.gov, for users to forward anything "on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy."
    Anything on the web that seems fishy...yep, that clearly says "Collect list of enemies". Or does it?

    In his letter, Cornyn asked that the effort cease immediately and that the administration inform Congress what it's doing to ensure that names and electronic information about citizens weighing in on health care are not collected.

    Kevin McLaughlin, a spokesman for the senator, said that the office had received no response from the administration.

    He said Cornyn had not yet considered whether he would push for legislation to address the matter if necessary.
    Really Sen. Cornyn, could you be any more of a paranoid douchebag? Now first off, this takes about 2 brain cells to figure out. If a person finds a webpage they think has "intentionally misleading information", they could use a Gmail account if so paranoid. But something tells me that a lot of the people that would be doing this probably already have submitted their e-mails as freaking supporters! Wait, what is that at the top of the page I see, Get Updates? I can voluntarily submit my e-mail address and get updates. Imagine that. Still having trouble finding where I provide the White House with personal information so they can collect that for their enemies list to prepare for our invasion of Poland.

    Now, what "Disinformation" could we possibly see? Oh, maybe something like this:

    Talk Radio Campaign Frightening Seniors
    Yep, the Kill Granny campaign of lies and distortions. But is there another maybe?

    E-mail 'analysis' of health bill needs a check-up

    I liked this one, took me a whole .0000000000001 second to shoot down more lies one of your comrades here tried to spread.

    As for reading and comprehending the OP:
    It took the Dallas News to make this a Breaking News story.
    Wow, simply amazing...except this was actually old news when he posted this.

    Then he goes on to say...
    It's time to wake up to the truth that this Obama person is modeling hie enemies list after the Nationalist Socialist party of Germany of 1919 to 1945
    To which I can only say God damn I hope they have good provisions in the health care reform bill for mental health treatment, because this is paranoid delusion. Or dishonest fear mongering, you know just like what the White House is trying to do right now which is at the heart of this topic.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Yeah, they probably asked for chain emails knowing that some people will forward it with the previous recipients attached, so they can covertly build a massive database of people who recieve chain letters so they can....do things with it



    Thank god we have the GOP to uncover this dastardly plot based on....nothing whatsoever

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Yeah, they probably asked for chain emails knowing that some people will forward it with the previous recipients attached, so they can covertly build a massive database of people who recieve chain letters so they can....do things with it



    Thank god we have the GOP to uncover this dastardly plot based on....nothing whatsoever
    HOLY CRAP...You have figured it out. They will have a massive list of..just e-mail addresses then that they can do what with?

    Wait, I know...OMG this is pure genius. The White House is going to sell this list to spammers and marketers and pay off the debt. Wow, simply genius.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    The whole idea of this flag@whitehouse.gov website is to frighten people out of stating their opinions in excursive of their right to free speech because the White House and the majority of Democrat Party have run into an informed public that knows more of the contents and pit falls within this Socialist plan than most if not all of Congress and Obama because we did the research and found the flaws that are all through it. In the effort they are lying about who is protesting at Town Hall meetings and why they are there.
    It's not lies Obama wants stopped it's the truth, because Obama and his minions are the ones spreading lies and they want to know how to blunt the truth of what is being said with more lies obfuscation and straw men. And now in this forum there are some who claim to be conservative that I believe are lending them aid in their quest.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The whole idea of this flag@whitehouse.gov website is to frighten people out of stating their opinions in excursive of their right to free speech because the White House and the majority of Democrat Party have run into an informed public that knows more of the contents and pit falls within this Socialist plan than most if not all of Congress and Obama because we did the research and found the flaws that are all through it. In the effort they are lying about who is protesting at Town Hall meetings and why they are there.
    It's not lies Obama wants stopped it's the truth, because Obama and his minions are the ones spreading lies and they want to know how to blunt the truth of what is being said with more lies obfuscation and straw men. And now in this forum there are some who claim to be conservative that I believe are lending them aid in their quest.
    Disregard my last post. Councilman has uncovered the truth.

    Obama told one of his staffers to make a post on the whitehouse blog asking people to send chain letters to the whitehouse. He did this because he knew that some people would also forward the email addresses of other recipients. He can use this to covertly build a massive database of the email addresses of people who get chain letters. He knows that people know that he can use this database of emails to .....do things



    He also knew that when people figured out the real purpose of the blog post asking for chain letters, it would become news. When people found out about it it would frighten them, immediately ceasing all GOP opposition to the healthcare plan. This lack of opposition from the right is necessary, because even though the democrats have complete control of the legislature, congress never does anything if a large portion of the population is against it.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Everyone, I was just informed by the head agent at headquarters that once we have compiled everyone's personal information, I will be ordered to change all your passwords...muahahhahahaha

    Seriously, this is one of the dumbest of threads, sorry I just have to say that. This is delusional parania reaching unhealthy levels. People need to take a step back and use their noggins.

    The Communications Director for the White House simply asked for people who saw misleading information to have this passed on to them so they could know what is being said. What, not by who, WHAT.

    Do you get that, WHAT...not WHO....WHAT.

    So if you see a webpage, you can e-mail that. If you get an e-mail, you can forward that as well. There is no request for who. You can use a hotmail account to even send for god's sake. All they want to see is the subject, the what. You know, kind of like the certain B.S. just posted here an hour ago about government is now going to access your bank accounts?

    Think about the subject of this thread, maybe this belongs in..I don't know Conspiracy? No, because there is no conspiracy at work here. Everything is clearly there if people would just use their damn brains for once.
    The fact is that we simply don't know what their intentions are or what they will do with information such as email addresses of individual citizens. That uncertainty can have a chilling effect and stifle free speech. Anything the government does that can have that kind of effect on free speech is of questionable Constitutionality at best.

    It's like Nixon collecting the names of war protesters. There was no certainty about what he would do with that information but it was still wrong.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Whose job is it to respond to public political campaigns against White House policies?
    Can't they just go to youtube instead of asking people to forward emails which contain the addresses of individual citizens?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It took the Dallas News to make this a Breaking News story.
    It's time to wake up to the truth that this Obama person is modeling hie enemies list after the Nationalist Socialist party of Germany of 1919 to 1945.
    Uh-oh. Next thing you know he'll be wire tapping without warrants.

    You got to relax about this type of stuff dude. The White House has always and will always do what it feels is in the best interest of our country while keeping close to the Declaration of Independance. Critics went ape **** over Nixon.....Carter....Reagan.....Clinton.....and Bush. And now Obama. We have seen the critics complain about one president turing our country into a Nazi Regime, another into a warmongering nation hell bent on nuclear destruction, another who encouraged terrorism against us, and another who pandered to the public popularity polls at the expense of "soldier" blood.

    Our government, over the span of history, has generated lists of "communists," "Nazis," "Klansmen," "terrorists," "war protestors," etc. There will always be something about our Presidents that is determined to be thoroughly "un-American" by the critics who seek to complain only when the wrong color (blue/red) sits on high.
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    Re: Cornyn accuses White House of compiling 'enemies list'

    The thing about Obama that has many people fearful, or at least me, is that while past presidents have done reprehensible things and should have/should be held accountable, Obama has done a lot of these very radical things in such a short period of time - not to mention the speed and careless nature of trying to get this stuff (Cap & Trade, the health care bill, etc)and on top of that, we don't know if we can trust their words as the real motive behind them wanting the information they seek on so-called disinformation spreaders, I sure as hell won't start crazy theories but I too am praying that the reasoning doesn't turn out to be that which would sent Orwell spinning in his grave.
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