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    Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan


    LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - An unruly Little Rock crowd heckled and shouted at two Arkansas Democratic congressmen Wednesday, accusing them of supporting a government-backed health plan that would take away Americans' personal choice and freedom.
    At one point, U.S. Rep. Mike Ross sat with his head in his hands while the crowd shouted. He and fellow Democratic Rep. Vic Snyder told audience members at a forum at Arkansas Children's Hospital that they wouldn't support a completely government-run, single-payer health insurance plan.

    "But that's what Obama wants!" an audience member shouted, leading to more heckling.

    Ross, who represents south Arkansas, sits on the Energy and Commerce Committee and has led his fellow Blue Dog Democrats in delaying a vote on the health care overhaul until at least September. Ross is chairman of the Blue Dogs' health care task force.


    It seems a ground swell has started. The American people know we can not afford this health care plan, and we do not want to see our choice taken away. From coast to coast, individuals are making thier voices heard.... Lets hope Ross and the "blue dogs" get the message!
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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    A healthcare system will not work if the Democrats continue excluding the other side imo.

    When NHS was introduced into the UK, It had to have had public support yes but also political.
    It took the effort from all sides to introduce it and the only way to ensure a UHC system stays even after Democrats leave power is to answer the questions and worries of the masses and there is legitimate questions being raised - Bring on board the Republicans. If it takes a few years to come up with the best solution, do so. Something this big needs a long time to go through the details

    Incidentally i do not think introducing a UHC during a recession is a good way to go. It'll bring the deficit to ridiculous levels.
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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    At the same time, Republicans are going to change the system so much that there's no point in implementing the system. Under what grounds would Republicans accept a government health care plan? When they answer this, then we can invite them to the table. Conservatives don't even try to compromise. They say "you have to do this, because if you don't- you're wrong and you'll destroy America." Then they turn the other way when some lunatic kills one of those "America destroyers."

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    At the same time, Republicans are going to change the system so much that there's no point in implementing the system. Under what grounds would Republicans accept a government health care plan? When they answer this, then we can invite them to the table. Conservatives don't even try to compromise. They say "you have to do this, because if you don't- you're wrong and you'll destroy America." Then they turn the other way when some lunatic kills one of those "America destroyers."
    You get Medicaid, Medicare, Tricare, and title19. In return, you will give conservatives a balanced budget, every year, on time.
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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We have Medicaid, Medicare, and title19.

    That's it. That's all you get. Nothing more.

    For giving you that much, you will give conservatives a balanced budget, every year, on time.
    You call decades old legislation a compromise? I guess I can't say you're not a Conservative (although fiscal Conservatives would never agree to that). It's obvious that in our day and age there's a problem with our health-care system. As a man involved in the health care field, the problem is obvious. We don't join the health care field so that we can brush people aside when they don't have the right kind of insurance. We joined the health care field so we can HELP PEOPLE.

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    pelosi/obama's problems are not with the GOP, republicans are irrelevant

    pelosi/obama own SIXTY senators, remember?

    the foot draggers are the CBO, the bluedogs, democrat governors of states who refuse to shoulder this "mother of unfunded mandates" pushed off on them by increased medicare costs, freshmen congressmen, progressives...

    since july 16, the day the public option died, the following democrats have spoken PUBLICLY about the problems THEY'RE having with pelosi/obama's plans and methods:

    max baucus, kent conrad, charlie rangel, bill nelson, jared polis, jim cooper, mike ross, doug elmendorf, david obey, nita lowey, greg meeks, bill richardson, christine gregoire, bill ritter, phil bredesen, blanche lincoln, mark pryor, byron dorgan, mary landrieu, evan bayh, ben nelson, maxine waters, bart stupak, lynn woolsey, gene green...

    they speak for OTHERS within their party

    most are intimidated by swelling public outrage

    look at the polls

    this aint GOP

    it's not state farm insurance, the good hands people, like a good neighbor

    it's the incompetent POLITICS practiced by pelosi and the prez

    sorry

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    You call decades old legislation a compromise?
    Yeah, I do, because age has nothing to do with anything on this thread at all.

    Liberals get some medical insurance, and in return they simply have to be responsible with it.

    After decades, we're still waiting for them to fulfill their end of the deal.

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    Since one of the main reasons women get abortions is economic instability, when you keep instituting programs which tank the economy, you are hardly helping those women.

    "Oh but we'll pay for the abortion for you" is not comforting to the woman who shouldn't have been in the economic hardships you placed her in with the very program which will pay for the abortion she may not need if that program didn't exist in the first place.
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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    This is the legacy of FDR, his true bleak legacy. He changed American's view of Government, into a source of "stuff for me" and engendered an entitlement mentality that LBJ Later strengthened.

    We have to ween ourselves off Government, though I fear it's too late and we'll soon all just be chained in slavery TO the Government.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    This is the legacy of FDR, his true bleak legacy. He changed American's view of Government, into a source of "stuff for me" and engendered an entitlement mentality that LBJ Later strengthened.

    We have to ween ourselves off Government, though I fear it's too late and we'll soon all just be chained in slavery TO the Government.
    Careful with your avatar.

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post

    Incidentally i do not think introducing a UHC during a recession is a good way to go. It'll bring the deficit to ridiculous levels.
    Maybe that part was intentional, that way it will surely fail and at same time they can claim political cool points for trying to implement it and bash some opponents for not voting for it.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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