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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Gosh, it ought to be pretty easy to get photos of these bus caravans, no? I sure do want to see them.
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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    If everyone is getting paid to do this but me, I'm gonna be pissed.

    As for being a Republican, I left that disaster several years ago.
    I'm still an elephant at the moment, only because I'm hoping my generation of conservatives can right the ship, but if this next election cycle doesn't see some principled, strong conservatives I will be going to the constitution party.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Soon as I get home to watch I will. From this point I've been simply assuming what one of your liberal compatriots in this thread stated was in the report and been going from there. But as I said, my issue was not necessarily with the report....I fully believe that there are PACs behind many of these protests...but with your initial statement that the ENTIRE thing is being financed by rich republicans and being coordinated by the RNC.

    However a few things...

    1. Glad to know next time someone posts a WND or FreeRepublic story i shoudln't see you complaining about the soruce but instead speaking exactly what it is in the report you believe is untrue.

    2. Do you have issues with the exact same kind of things happening when Code Pink, MoveOn.Org, La Raza, and President Obama himself also help to fund and/or organize protests for or against certain action?
    I am disappointed you chose to post such a lengthy response to the report when you did not watch the report. You obviously were only interested in backing up the deteriorating position of the rightwing partisans. I am disappointed, because I generally have respect for your opinions, even though I usually disagree with them. Thank you for admitting you did not watch the report, and I look forward to your opinion of it.

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I am disappointed you chose to post such a lengthy response to the report when you did not watch the report. You obviously were only interested in backing up the deteriorating position of the rightwing partisans. I am disappointed, because I generally have respect for your opinions, even though I usually disagree with them. Thank you for admitting you did not watch the report, and I look forward to your opinion of it.
    It seems you didn't bother to read the thread.

    I'm at work. Youtube videos aren't able to be played here. I didn't not watch it becasue I don't want to, but because I can't. That's why I actually, for the sake of the debate, assumed what a liberal poster on this thread stated was stated in the report was true. Its obvious you don't want to engage in debate because I asked legitimate, honest questions and you're shucking and jiving with excuses that have already been explained away. Not to mention the two questions I asked you can be answered clearly without even needing said report, especially when they are both predicated under the notion that the report is correct.

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Not exactly, if the risk pool goes up but usage stays somewhat neutral, then people will see a premium decrease, however if the pool and risk meet each other closely there will be little change, the worst case scenario is pool shrinkage and usage increases, that, along with increasing healthcare costs are the reasons for high prices and cost controls that do a disservice to consumers.
    When you make insurance an entitlement you include high risk individuals and thus drive up the costs for everyone.

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    If everyone is getting paid to do this but me, I'm gonna be pissed.
    Indeed.
    I haven't got my cheque through the door yet.


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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    1-it was part time workers who submitted falsified forms, ACORN caught them
    2 - nonsense, prove it
    3 - prove it
    4 - referring to 1 again, aren't you?

    You claimed ACORN pays people to disrupt Republican events. Why didn't you refer to that in your litany of crimes?

    So, you're admitting you're wilfully blind to ACORN's subversive activities.

    Good for you.

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Don't even give me that damn "It's not in the Constitution". You know what, there is a whole hell of a lot of things NOT in the Constitution. Do you really want to go down that road? Why hasn't Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, blah blah blah all been ruled un-Constitutional?
    I've no problem with ending all those unconstitutional programs, in fact, it's an outcome I desire.

    As to why they haven't been ruled out? Simple, the courts follow the political winds.

    Welcome to the real world.

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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    By your own argument....2000-2006 anyone?

    Oh, and do look back in the historical record why don't you, specifically those years that Reagan submitted budgets asking for more than Congress wanted to spend. Do look into this please, you are sorely in need of education.
    You mean the budget requests that Tip O'Neill immediately ignored and wrote bills for whatever he felt like? The actuall bills presented to the President didn't look like what he asked for, that's certain.

    'Cuz, guess what, the Congress originates the spending bills, not the White House. Perhaps you should learn some basic civics sometime.
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    Re: Ark. crowd mocks lawmakers over Obama health plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When you make insurance an entitlement you include high risk individuals and thus drive up the costs for everyone.
    And, when it becomes and entitlement, only the entitlement class will be able to get it, without having their eyeballs pulled out to pay for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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