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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    I'm not actually disagreeing that in some aspects homosexuals are more sexually open then heterosexuals (i'm not using the idiotic line of "sexually moral" which is just asinine).

    That being said, the implications your continually making is this is due to the fact that they're gay, rather than numerous potential other factors.

    For example, Catholic Priests in recent years have been apt to touch little boys...however that does not mean "Being a Catholic Priest naturally causes you to want to touch little boys", but could be that the situations that associate with being a priest (no marriage, vow of celibacy, position of power over the target) could be the actual cause. For example, in that theory you could potentially take a person that's an athiest, put him in a mentorish type position over a bunch of young boys, get him to vow from having sex or marrying with fear of major social and job backlash if it happens, and keep him generally separated from private time with females....there's a chance the same thing happens, and "Catholic priest" isn't in the equation at all.

    Could it possibly be that our culture, for centuries, has made male promiscuity a thing that is looked at as a bonus. Is it not common in high schools, colleges, and bars of today to find men comparing their achievements of who they've "tagged" and making it a challenge to see if they can take a girl home for the night? Indeed, you could say there's a biological factor to the desire for openness and promiscuity in sex with men. As such, when not given the filter of the societal structure for females along with the more evolutionary traits of that sex, could it not be that the fact they're "homosexual" that is causing what you purport but actually simply because they're MALE.

    In that case, Males are sexually immoral, which could be said, you would be proving that you yourself are sexually immoral mc.no.spin

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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    I get what you're saying, perhaps it is now a problem of such studies being far more taboo and politicized.

    Ultimately, these statistics, perhaps lacking a fresh tally, are indeed reminiscent of the scene today, at the least. The farther along homosexuality is made "natural" and "normal" the more prevalent such promiscuity and illicit behavior can be practiced without regret. It's just an observation of how that community acts. I find fault with the assertion that their sexual activities are on par with the heterosexual community. It is not what I have observed to be true, and these statistics bear out what I have seen. If there are other statistics showing such, I welcome the chance to review them.
    The truly sad thing is.....it seems like you actually believe the BS that you are posting.
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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm not actually disagreeing that in some aspects homosexuals are more sexually open then heterosexuals (i'm not using the idiotic line of "sexually moral" which is just asinine).

    That being said, the implications your continually making is this is due to the fact that they're gay, rather than numerous potential other factors.

    For example, Catholic Priests in recent years have been apt to touch little boys...however that does not mean "Being a Catholic Priest naturally causes you to want to touch little boys", but could be that the situations that associate with being a priest (no marriage, vow of celibacy, position of power over the target) could be the actual cause. For example, in that theory you could potentially take a person that's an athiest, put him in a mentorish type position over a bunch of young boys, get him to vow from having sex or marrying with fear of major social and job backlash if it happens, and keep him generally separated from private time with females....there's a chance the same thing happens, and "Catholic priest" isn't in the equation at all.

    Could it possibly be that our culture, for centuries, has made male promiscuity a thing that is looked at as a bonus. Is it not common in high schools, colleges, and bars of today to find men comparing their achievements of who they've "tagged" and making it a challenge to see if they can take a girl home for the night? Indeed, you could say there's a biological factor to the desire for openness and promiscuity in sex with men. As such, when not given the filter of the societal structure for females along with the more evolutionary traits of that sex, could it not be that the fact they're "homosexual" that is causing what you purport but actually simply because they're MALE.

    In that case, Males are sexually immoral, which could be said, you would be proving that you yourself are sexually immoral mc.no.spin
    As an example, the gay community has bars and hangouts where it is agreed upon to have sex with strangers, such as oral sex through a hole in the wall, or meeting in fields behind rest stops and engaging in sex. There are other examples. It's just a comment on that community, it's mores and agreements.

    I think you make a good point that the heterosexual male often has aspirations that draw a close parallel. If there were some hot babes behind a rest stop, well, you get the idea. That's fine to draw that comparison, and point taken. The fact is, there are for the most part no such scenarios, whereas in the gay community it's prevalent. So thus there are clearly differences in the sexual partner numbers, diseases, and the like.

    Is that because they are gay? Males perhaps have a desire for variety, and a high sex drive, and are repressed in those drives due to the anti-slut defenses of the usual female. Interestingly, it keeps things a little more socially calm as a result. In the gay community, according to those statistics, there are many more murders, suicides, etc.

    The original remark, that the sexual escapades of this deputy are symbolic of the gay community, still remains true.
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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    As an example, the gay community has bars and hangouts where it is agreed upon to have sex with strangers, such as oral sex through a hole in the wall, or meeting in fields behind rest stops and engaging in sex. There are other examples. It's just a comment on that community, it's mores and agreements.
    Mmmmhmmm, glory holes are totally only for the gays.

    If heterosexuals weren't sluts either, we wouldn't have shows like 16 and pregnant or Rock of Love (damn that show sucked).
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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    Please enlighten me with hard evidence that this is a "hard-wired personality trait" and how this explains why some homosexuals happily go straight later on.


    Why? What's the point?

    Are really curious about the most recent studies/research in the relevant areas of social science and pediatrics concerning homosexuality? Do you really want to know how pediatricians can now identify homosexual behavior traits in young children?

    Does that type of article really interest you? Because, honestly, you strike me as someone who is content to only know what you already know.

    If you are really curious and interested in getting better informed, I'll PM you some links to current theories on sexual preference being a function of genetics, brain development, and several prenatal factors.

    Like any hard-wired personality or physical trait, there are degrees. Some left-handed people can be taught to write with their right hand, some can not. A person who 'converts' from homosexuality to heterosexuality may be bisexual, or, more likely a very unhappy and repressed person.


    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Mmmmhmmm, glory holes are totally only for the gays.

    If heterosexuals weren't sluts either, we wouldn't have shows like 16 and pregnant or Rock of Love (damn that show sucked).

    Yeah....because there aren't any heterosexual strip joints, table dances, lap dances. No such thing as heterosexual prostitution and adult book stores.

    Those things don't exist in MC's world.

    I wonder if MC knows that 90% of all the porn produced is geared towards Heterosexuals?

    My guess is.......nah.
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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

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    Do you have a link for the cut and paste?
    Westboro Baptist Church Home Page...a credible research outlet.

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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    As an example, the gay community has bars and hangouts where it is agreed upon to have sex with strangers, such as oral sex through a hole in the wall, or meeting in fields behind rest stops and engaging in sex. There are other examples. It's just a comment on that community, it's mores and agreements.
    Understand, but your implications routinely seem to be that its because they're HOMOSEXUAL...which seems to be completely and utterly unproven and specious at best.

    I think you make a good point that the heterosexual male often has aspirations that draw a close parallel. If there were some hot babes behind a rest stop, well, you get the idea. That's fine to draw that comparison, and point taken. The fact is, there are for the most part no such scenarios, whereas in the gay community it's prevalent. So thus there are clearly differences in the sexual partner numbers, diseases, and the like.
    That said, again, you generally have been implying that its happening to the "Gay community" because they're "Gay". However, you even acknowledge, if this was readily available to heterosexual males it'd likely be happening just as often. Notice that there is a consistent variable in this and its the term "male" not homosexual.

    Is that because they are gay? Males perhaps have a desire for variety, and a high sex drive, and are repressed in those drives due to the anti-slut defenses of the usual female. Interestingly, it keeps things a little more socially calm as a result. In the gay community, according to those statistics, there are many more murders, suicides, etc.
    Again, are these from 20 and 30 year old studies and statistics? Furthermore, again, you seem to be continuing to attempt to imply this is due to the fact they're gay...however could it not be the suicide rates were up back during your decades old studies because at that point it was hugely more negative of a stereotype, greatly increasing the stress over years of a persons life, than it is now...and now its still not great. Would the suicides in that case, if that was the reason for it (Which is as likely as your implication), not be a symptom of the straight community rather than the Gay Community to use your terms?

    The original remark, that the sexual escapades of this deputy are symbolic of the gay community, still remains true.
    No, its not. The majority of the gay community does not engage in sexual assault, no matter how much you keep trying to twist it to that. You're trying to equate gay guys banging each other in one night stands to someone illegally forcing someone to have sex with them and acting like they're in the same league. They're not, its disgusting of you to attempt to do it, and the questions of potential bigotry or homophobia when you are attempting to connect such things are dead on reasonable.

    If he was caught having indiscriminate random sex at a rest stop and you wanted to say that its a bit symbolic of the gay community I'd have a bit less of an issue with it. But you're trying to equate rape to being symbolic to the community, which is utter bull****.

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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    Not to mention to the previous dubiousness of the report you posted, something picked up by non-stop propoganda sites FreeRepublic and Traditioninaction, and put out by a group called the "Iternational Organization of Heterosexual Rights"

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    Re: Deputy accused of sexual abuse was fighter for gay rights

    What's wrong with sexual immorality, anyways?
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