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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    In a ruling that was confessed to be flawed by the Justice who wrote it. Roe is bad judicial opinion and needs to be revisited in a sincere attempt at getting it right.
    So? Let them revisit it. That doesn't change the fact that it's the law of the land. Currently, abortion is justified and legal. As long as it is, it's the choice of any law-abiding citizen. I'm in favor of people having the choice to do that which is allowed by the law.

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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammyo View Post
    So?
    Well how do you answer that? Color me unimpressed.

    Let them revisit it.
    I think that's what I just called for if I'm not mistaken...

    That doesn't change the fact that it's the law of the land.
    Oh oh oh...I'm sorry. I thought we were here to debate an issue, not reference the law and say "case closed". Who knew?

    Currently, abortion is justified and legal.
    And if you would care to actually READ and join the discussion rather than touting the obvious at us as if it's somehow relevant or insightful, you would see that I am not advocating anything other than abortion being legal and justified.

    As long as it is, it's the choice of any law-abiding citizen. I'm in favor of people having the choice to do that which is allowed by the law.
    Well then you have contributed the sum of all you have to offer. Would you mind if we got back to the discussion now that you've said your piece?

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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So in other words, we must pay for you to kill your child of inconvience.... I find this unnacceptable. Abortion is legal. I get it, however, expecting me to pay for it is abhorrent.
    Abortions are decisions that are still up to the states to make. So you would have the Federal government dictate to the states whether they can do abortions or not? What kind of Conservative ARE you.

    As far as the health care goes, abortions or not. I think it is abhorrent to take money out of my pocket and give it to someone else for ANYTHING.
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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammyo View Post
    So? Let them revisit it. That doesn't change the fact that it's the law of the land. Currently, abortion is justified and legal. As long as it is, it's the choice of any law-abiding citizen. I'm in favor of people having the choice to do that which is allowed by the law.



    this is the type of simple minded thinking, this country could use less of. Just because something is legal, does not make it right.

    Slavery for one. by your logic you would have been pro slavery back in the 1800....


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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Abortions are decisions that are still up to the states to make. So you would have the Federal government dictate to the states whether they can do abortions or not? What kind of Conservative ARE you.


    I am the type that thinks that you are killing someone. life is the ultimate right.


    Should murder be a states issue? could a state be allowed to legalize murder, or say slavery?
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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammyo View Post
    That's astoundingly well-stated, Orius! It also follows perfectly, from that stance, that abortion should be a choice, and not mandated. It's not fair to force someone to get an abortion, and it's not fair to keep them from getting an abortion. Either way takes away choice.

    As to your ending statement, of course. That's to be expected, but that fact has no bearing at all on the logical arguments for or against the issue. My "being pissed" about some current legislation has no bearing on it whatsoever. An anti-abortionists "being pissed" at this sort of law is not a reason for or against it. It should come down to the surrounding issues and the logical reasons for or against the issue, not people's emotions. People can vote their emotions if it comes to a vote, but a person's emotions are not, in and of themselves, an argument either way.
    My money isn't an emotional argument, my money is my property and I have say in what I give it to. I don't want to pay for someone's fake boobs, or lip injections, or any elective medical procedure including abortion. Pay your own way. I'm willing to argue medical needs and emergencies, but elective procedures should always come from the pocket of the person who wants it.
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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I am the type that thinks that you are killing someone. life is the ultimate right.


    Should murder be a states issue? could a state be allowed to legalize murder, or say slavery?
    Edited my post while you were posting. Here is the rest of what I posted:

    As far as the health care goes, abortions or not. I think it is abhorrent to take money out of my pocket and give it to someone else for ANYTHING.
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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Edited my post while you were posting. Here is the rest of what I posted:

    As far as the health care goes, abortions or not. I think it is abhorrent to take money out of my pocket and give it to someone else for ANYTHING.



    This part I agree with.
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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well how do you answer that? Color me unimpressed.
    Well, let me rephrase it just for you. What logical conclusion follows from your dangling premise?


    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think that's what I just called for if I'm not mistaken...
    And i was just voicing my agreement with you so you'd not have to wage a battle on that front. Silly me, you were going to battle either way, even if i declared that i was right there beside you.


    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Oh oh oh...I'm sorry. I thought we were here to debate an issue, not reference the law and say "case closed". Who knew?
    We can debate the issue all you want as soon as you put forth some sort of point. As it is, your statements are not in line with the law of the land, and mine are. Deal with that, and proceed. I've not declared that that's the end of the issue and for you to do so, based on pure assumption is both ridiculous and presumptuous. It was your call, and you made it.


    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And if you would care to actually READ and join the discussion rather than touting the obvious at us as if it's somehow relevant or insightful, you would see that I am not advocating anything other than abortion being legal and justified.
    I was responding to what you said in your post. If you'd read my last 12 college papers you'd know a lot more about my viewpoint as well. Who cares? I was answering what you said, not debating an entire discussions worth of issues.


    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well then you have contributed the sum of all you have to offer. Would you mind if we got back to the discussion now that you've said your piece?
    Really? I stopped you from your discussion with my posts?!? WOW!! I had no idea that my posts had that sort of power. Gee, jailman... i mean... willy-willikers!! My posts are teh shiznit!! Here i was thinking that i was replying to one post of yours, and what you said in it, and lo and behold i was holding up the ENTIRE DISCUSSION because i hadn't addressed the entire issue instead of what you had most recently put forth. Wow, i mean, WOW!

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    Re: Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammyo View Post
    Well, let me rephrase it just for you. What logical conclusion follows from your dangling premise?




    And i was just voicing my agreement with you so you'd not have to wage a battle on that front. Silly me, you were going to battle either way, even if i declared that i was right there beside you.




    We can debate the issue all you want as soon as you put forth some sort of point. As it is, your statements are not in line with the law of the land, and mine are. Deal with that, and proceed. I've not declared that that's the end of the issue and for you to do so, based on pure assumption is both ridiculous and presumptuous. It was your call, and you made it.




    I was responding to what you said in your post. If you'd read my last 12 college papers you'd know a lot more about my viewpoint as well. Who cares? I was answering what you said, not debating an entire discussions worth of issues.




    Really? I stopped you from your discussion with my posts?!? WOW!! I had no idea that my posts had that sort of power. Gee, jailman... i mean... willy-willikers!! My posts are teh shiznit!! Here i was thinking that i was replying to one post of yours, and what you said in it, and lo and behold i was holding up the ENTIRE DISCUSSION because i hadn't addressed the entire issue instead of what you had most recently put forth. Wow, i mean, WOW!
    Alright, I see where this is going and I've no interest in following you into this exercise of asinine posturing and boorish attack. You have fun with all that now. And a good day to you sir.

    Now, would any adults like to rejoin the conversation?

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