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    Pupils as young as five will be taught about the evils of 'wife beating' and the need to form healthy relationships.

    The lessons are part of a controversial drive, unveiled today, to reduce violence against women and young girls.

    They will include teaching boys that they must not beat their partners or any other female.

    Last night, critics warned that ministers are cramming the already over-stuffed National Curriculum with lessons that should be taught in the home or in the community.

    Others say the plan is part of the feminist agenda led by Harriet Harman in her role as Equalities Minister.

    They pointed out the new classes will not cover violence against men, who are far more likely to be the victims of violent crime.

    In the past few days alone, Miss Harman has blamed men for the banking crisis, and suggested the Labour Party should always have a female in one of its top two posts.
    In the week Harriet Harman takes charge, yet another feminist initiative | Mail Online

    At 5?
    What a negative assumption to begin with, that all children will need lessons on this as if they destined to be either abused or the abusers.

    The most in danger group in this society is young Black men. Harperson needs to lay down the crack.


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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    What's wrong with this? I see nothing wrong with implementing morals of this kind at a young age. There's a psychological pattern in wife beaters that usually follows on from their fathers beating their mothers, a lack of empathy for the pain of others, a need for control etc etc. Teach them that these are illogical and wrong and you can potentially reap the benefits.
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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    What's wrong with this? I see nothing wrong with implementing morals of this kind at a young age. There's a psychological pattern in wife beaters that usually follows on from their fathers beating their mothers, a lack of empathy for the pain of others, a need for control etc etc. Teach them that these are illogical and wrong and you can potentially reap the benefits.
    I think it is stupid and a waste of time.
    How about creating more safe housing? Increase the law enabling police to act sooner on domestic abuses even if the partner refuses to testify?

    Just this weak a absolutely shocking survey came about our schools and instead of teaching how to read and write we are teaching them this nonsense.
    Instil this in PHSCE at secondary level if need be.

    They will include teaching boys that they must not beat their partners or any other female.
    And what about women who beat up Men? Are girls not going to be taught not to beat up their partner?
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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I think it is stupid and a waste of time.
    How about creating more safe housing? Increase the law enabling police to act sooner on domestic abuses even if the partner refuses to testify?
    Psychology creates criminals and sadists not housing. I grew up in a rough area full of heroin addiction but I turned out fine. It's about upbringing. Of course the environment doesn't help but 'safe housing' is a lot harder to achieve than influencing the sponge mind of a child.

    I'd support such laws but you can't force someone to do something they don't want to do. It's why most domestic violence goes on for a long time. Ridiculous, I know.

    Just this weak a absolutely shocking survey came about our schools and instead of teaching how to read and write we are teaching them this nonsense.
    Instil this in PHSCE at secondary level if need be.
    Most children have three hours a week where they don't do any core subjects. It's why they have bike safety and road safety and anti-smoking classes.


    And what about women who beat up Men? Are girls not going to be taught not to beat up their partner?
    That's not as large a problem as male on female violence as females typically aren't strong or violent enough to beat up a fully grown man. It happens, of course, but not as often as the other.
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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    I agree that laws shouldn't be sexist and women abusing men is just as big of a problem as men who beat up women (I don't want to be insensitive here, but a woman who is beat up by a man isn't always innocent).

    That being said, I think change requires teaching our youth the proper societal ideals. It's obvious that trying to change an older person is difficult than trying to change a child. That being said, I don't know how cost-effective this program is. Should we teach every child not to abuse women when only a small percentage would do it anyway? Does the program even work? Is it better to only react to bad behavior instead of trying to teach a certain behavior to every child? That allows some to go "through the cracks" and teaches cure over prevention, but is it worth it?

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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    In the week Harriet Harman takes charge, yet another feminist initiative | Mail Online

    At 5?
    What a negative assumption to begin with, that all children will need lessons on this as if they destined to be either abused or the abusers.

    The most in danger group in this society is young Black men. Harperson needs to lay down the crack.
    I hate to point this out but I think mothers are more often than fathers to dish out mental abuse to their children.

    No matter which way it goes, it shouldn't be taught to such young children and it should be gender neutral.
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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    My only problem with it is it's focus.

    There are females that can physically hurt males also.

    So I think it should be focused in generalities.
    i.e.: It's never ok to hit unless you are being hit or threatened with physical violence.

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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    I think it is fine to begin to teach everyone as early as possible about respect, honesty, ethics, commitment, personal responsibility, and moral values. Forget about religion it doesn't have to be about the teachings in the Bible just the basics of what is right and wrong. Today just about all of these things in society hold little or no real meaning anymore. Before the 60s divorce was shunned and looked down on cheating on your taxes was fairly rare, as were family violence calls to the police. Anyone who hit a woman faced the real possibility of getting an ass kicking from a real man who would never consider such an outrageous act. So why do we hear about it so much today? I believe it's because we let began to let TV raise our children and moved into day care and then to video games and computers to do the job of caring for our most precious assets. We don't set good examples everyday for our children to live by. Look at the number of divorced people who rather than work on a relationship just jump into bed with a new partner because it's convenient and there is no real down side in society.
    I can assure you that even if you live up to the standards set by those who came before us it is no guarantee that one of your children won't end up a pregnant teen or that your wife or husband won't cheat on you, or that you will never hear about family violence. But I can also assure you that if it were the standard that everyone lived by and passed on to their children as they raise them themselves these things would be less prevalent than they are today.
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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post

    So I think it should be focused in generalities.
    i.e.: It's never ok to hit unless you are being hit or threatened with physical violence.
    Shouldn't parents be doing this?

    Why foist it onto the teachers. They are there to teach imo


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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Shouldn't parents be doing this?

    Why foist it onto the teachers. They are there to teach imo
    Sure they should.
    But I see no problem with them teaching generalities like I suggested because as we all know many parents do not carry through with their responsibilities.

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