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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I really hate, hate, hate the way that domestic violence is sold as a "men are evil" package. That is NOT how these relationships work.
    Indeed.

    I have seen some of my girlfriends smack their partners in anger.
    And i always think, if he hit her back he'd be in jail probably or done for assault.

    I think it's BS.
    If i was a guy and a girl smacked me, i'd hit her back. I'm not going to lie


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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think this research study, in particular, had an interesting finding:

    Capaldi, D. M., Kim, H. K., & Shortt, J. W. (2007). Observed initiation and reciprocity of physical aggression in young at-risk couples. Journal of Family Therapy, 22 (2) 101-111. (A longitudinal study using subjects from the Oregon Youth and Couples Study. <see above> Subjects were assessed 4 times across a 9 year period from late adolescence to mid-20's. Findings reveal that young women's rate of initiation of physical violence was "two times higher than men's during late adolescence and young adulthood." By mid-20's the rate of initiation was about equal. Mutual aggression increased the likelihood of injury for both men and women.)
    Its kind of like car accidents. Girls have more, but they are smaller nicks and dings. Men have less, but when we do the level of damage is much greater.

    I'm not basing that on any statistics, and completely making it up, but it seems like it fits, right?
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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Indeed.

    I have seen some of my girlfriends smack their partners in anger.
    And i always think, if he hit her back he'd be in jail probably or done for assault.

    I think it's BS.
    If i was a guy and a girl smacked me, i'd hit her back. I'm not going to lie
    With all of the emphasis placed on teaching boys not to hit girls, it might be helpful if more girls were taught not to hit.

    And yes. I was raised to hit back.
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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Its kind of like car accidents. Girls have more, but they are smaller nicks and dings. Men have less, but when we do the level of damage is much greater.

    I'm not basing that on any statistics, and completely making it up, but it seems like it fits, right?
    Of course, men are capable of doing damage because, in general, men are stronger and larger than women. However, there is a clear double standard on this issue.

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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Indeed.

    I have seen some of my girlfriends smack their partners in anger.
    And i always think, if he hit her back he'd be in jail probably or done for assault.

    I think it's BS.
    If i was a guy and a girl smacked me, i'd hit her back. I'm not going to lie
    I've let my wife hit me in my shoulder, as hard as she could. I realize that sometimes, you just need to punch something. So rather than wake up tied to the bed with my penis glued, I'll just let her throw a weak ass punch to an area where its not going to hurt me too much.
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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I've let my wife hit me in my shoulder, as hard as she could. I realize that sometimes, you just need to punch something. So rather than wake up tied to the bed with my penis glued, I'll just let her throw a weak ass punch to an area where its not going to hurt me too much.
    I have never touched my partner and expect the same.
    I don't do smacks, those are for bitches. I do punches if need be


    I don't mean the weak hit some girls do, i mean damage.
    If someone hit me, guy or not. I'd hit back and i taught my brothers the same.

    I do not subscribe to this nonsense of she is a girl, don't hit her. If she started it, she can damn well finish it.


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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    With all of the emphasis placed on teaching boys not to hit girls, it might be helpful if more girls were taught not to hit.
    It might be helpful if both genders were taught if you lash out, chances are that person will do the same.


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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    Sure they should.
    But I see no problem with them teaching generalities like I suggested because as we all know many parents do not carry through with their responsibilities.
    Then maybe the children shouldn't be with the parents.

    And one of the things that makes me especially angry is that witch i call a DPM is forcing this through and shelves plans on rape law reform.
    Not that I disagree, but it is hard to reach into the home to force parents to teach their kids anything.
    And I seriously doubt you can stop these kind of people from having children, let alone take them away.

    What rape law reform is she shelving and why does it Matter?



    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It might be helpful if both genders were taught if you lash out, chances are that person will do the same.
    But that doesn't teach the wrongness of it.
    So back to what I originally said.
    So I think it should be focused in generalities.
    i.e.: It's never ok to hit unless you are being hit or threatened with physical violence.

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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Its kind of like car accidents. Girls have more, but they are smaller nicks and dings. Men have less, but when we do the level of damage is much greater.

    I'm not basing that on any statistics, and completely making it up, but it seems like it fits, right?

    See, this is the main reason I told my son he couldn't hit his younger half-sister. Not that she didn't deserve it (on a number of occasions she surely did), but I was afraid that with his temper up and steam jetting out of his ears, he'd forget that she was 1/3 his size and breakable.

    At 13 years old, he is almost 6 feet tall, 200 lbs and has shoulders a lineman for the Green Bay Packers would be proud of, and can pick his mother up over his head. Not to mention I started his martial training before age 3... so I fell back on what Peter Parker's grandfather told him in Spiderman: "With great power comes great responsibility." That because of his unusually great capability to inflict damage, he is that much more morally responsible to control himself and respond in a measured manner, that is.

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    Re: Lessons about wife-beating at five years old

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    What's wrong with this? I see nothing wrong with implementing morals of this kind at a young age. There's a psychological pattern in wife beaters that usually follows on from their fathers beating their mothers, a lack of empathy for the pain of others, a need for control etc etc. Teach them that these are illogical and wrong and you can potentially reap the benefits.
    What about that "liberal" term age appropriate ? Do 5 year olds actually understand wife beating ? Why not teach 2 year olds that Tracey has two mommies and Danny has two daddies and Sheila has a sheep for a mommy. Ok I am over the top on the Sheep example but we need to get a grip. Kids do not need to know about wife beating until they are near an age when they may be having a wife or two.
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