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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

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    Could you explain more thoroughly please? What exactly makes one Muslim a so-called moderate and another one a so-called radical? How can you distinguish one from the other? Do the so-called moderates study a different version of the Koran and the Sunnah from the Koran and the Sunnah of the so-called radicals? Finally, if so-called moderates are truly moderate, then why are Christian dhimmis living in so-called moderate Islamic countries always without exception treated so harshly and cruelly oppressed?
    Technically you cannot be a moderate and be a real muslim by definition of the Koran, Hadiths, and Sunnah. Pretty much any Non jihadists have crossed the line into Hypocrite land. So the "radical muslims" are the ones not following the holy texts and more worried about feeding their kids than converting the infidel down the block. Technically the "radical muslim" (Straying from the teaching of Mohammed) is in line to feed the fire with the rest of us poor infidels. They do not study a different version so much as they do not follow it. Some may use the word "interpret" here but I do not know too many nice ways to define the word "Kill".
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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Wow !!! WTFAYTA ?
    The material is self explanatory.
    Quod scripsi, scripsi

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbeaux View Post

    Technically you cannot be a moderate and be a real muslim by definition of the Koran, Hadiths, and Sunnah. Pretty much any Non jihadists have crossed the line into Hypocrite land. So the "radical muslims" are the ones not following the holy texts and more worried about feeding their kids than converting the infidel down the block. Technically the "radical muslim" (Straying from the teaching of Mohammed) is in line to feed the fire with the rest of us poor infidels. They do not study a different version so much as they do not follow it. Some may use the word "interpret" here but I do not know too many nice ways to define the word "Kill".
    In other words, the good Muslims are the ones that emulate the prophet by pursuing jihad against the kafirs, and when I say jihad I don’t necessarily mean terrorism because terrorism is only one of many forms of jihad and indeed as a form of jihad it is the least ubiquitous and least important form of jihad the Muslims employ against us with the most prevalent forms of jihad being stealth and not involving any violence whatsoever. The bad Muslims in contrast are the ones who are for all intents and purposes secretly secular but maintain their Muslim identities mainly out of fear of being killed for apostasy and also not to inflict shame on their families.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

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    More tomfoolery from the religion of peace. Total eradication of the species known as 'radical Islamics' is necessary. Like child molesters, they cannot be cured or rehabilitated.



    Interesting quote here. Got any evidence to back it up? As much as I despise these actions that both of these groups do (Child molesters and Radical Islam) I do not hold a masters degree in Psychology, I am assuming you must? In order to make such a claim, you had better have some good explaining as to why these two groups cannot be changed. Considering we changed an entire nation that was ran theocratically , we changed them into a democracy all it took was two nuclear bombs, and American influence in the nation for years to come, now they are our good ally. (Japan). So please, explain.
    Japan was not poisoned by religion.
    The nuclear bombs put an end to their extremism.
    A good education ( when will this ever start ?) and several generations should temper their their religion.
    Much more than psychology is necessary, but its a start.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Technically you cannot be a moderate and be a real muslim by definition of the Koran, Hadiths, and Sunnah.
    There is no such thing as Moderate, Extreme, Gay, Secular.

    There is just Muslim.
    If you follow the 5 pillars and 6 articles, have faith in Allah and follow the tenents of Islam. You are a Muslim.

    Your political views is where extreme, secular etc. come in


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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    There is no such thing as Moderate, Extreme, Gay, Secular.

    There is just Muslim.
    If you follow the 5 pillars and 6 articles, have faith in Allah and follow the tenents of Islam. You are a Muslim.
    You left out the 6th pillar of Islam and the most important, jihad. Not to mention that all devout Muslims are inculcated to blindly follow the Prophet Muhammad, the uswa hasana, (the perfect model and excellent example for emulation), and that Muhammad was a particularly violent and brutal terrorist leader who among other things was also a pedophile who married Aisha, his favorite wife, when she was just 6 years old and then consummated the marriage when she was only 9.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    I'm not even going to bother with you

    As a Non Muslim your opinion of Islam automatically means nothing to me. I hardly take those who are not Muslims advice on what a Muslim actually is, especially someone like you.

    Oh and what a surprise, Prophet Mohammeds wife gets bought up

    Implying i burn Christians is a new low and not even worth my time to converse with you. You do not want to discuss Islam or Muslims rationally, you hate Islam. The obsession with Jihad is downright pathetic. Your entire attitude reeks of it and you seem unable to distinguish between terrorists and Muslims who are peaceful and follow the text.
    Last edited by Laila; 08-06-09 at 08:58 PM.


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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Looks like they did a piss poor job of it. Don't worry, we'll take care of the terrorists, so ya'll don't have to get your hands dirty killing your brother Muslims.
    Stop being rude to other posters. I am frankly sick of seeing it. Every other thread it's always you being rude to others. If you knew anything about the difference in Radicals in the Muslim faith, and regular peaceful Muslims you would be ashamed of your own comment. Do you even have the slightest understanding what regular Muslims face by standing up against their tyrannical theocratic governments? More than likely death or torture. Here, I have a challenge for you. I am a conservative like yourself, but I don't hate Obama as much as you do. So, since you hate him so much, and stand against nearly all of his policies, I want you to stand up to him and go do a march and organize people. I don't see you doing that. So sit down, and STFU.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I'm not even going to bother with you
    Yeah right…then why follow up with all the garbage below?

    As a Non Muslim your opinion of Islam automatically means nothing to me. I hardly take those who are not Muslims advice on what a Muslim actually is, especially someone like you.
    You’re just jealous because unlike you I’m not a Muslim apologist.

    Oh and what a surprise, Prophet Mohammeds wife gets bought up
    Come on Aisha, Muhammad’s favorite wife, was just a 9-year-old child when he consumated his marriage to her and I don't know about your's but that makes Muhammad a pedophile in my book. Which is why we see other child brides throughout the Dar al Islam in emulation of their holy Prophet Muhammad, the uswa hasana. I mean what a better way to become a more pious and virtuous Muslim than by taking a child for your bride. Meanwhile Islam has institutionalized the oppression of women and your full aplogia of it indicates your endorsement of it.

    Implying i burn Christians is a new low and not even worth my time to converse with you.
    Excuse me but when and where did I imply you burn Christians? Maybe you shouldn’t be posting at the same time you are drinking.

    You do not want to discuss Islam or Muslims rationally, you hate Islam.
    Uhm…I think it is obviously you that is refusing to discuss Islam rationally without pitching a fit like in this post, for instance. In any event, I challenge you or anyone else for that matter to please prove anything I have ever said about Muslims and Islam on this forum that isn’t true. Indeed, if you are going to charge I’m irrational, then either put your money where your mouth is or just accept the fact that some people aren’t so naïve and gullible.

    The obsession with Jihad is downright pathetic.
    Your obsession with covering up and apologizing for Muslims and Islam is a hell of a lot more pathetic.

    Your entire attitude reeks of it and you seem unable to distinguish between terrorists and Muslims who are peaceful and follow the text.
    Actually your knowledge of Islam and Muslims to say the least is about as atrocious as it gets. Nevertheless, to the contrary I worry the least about the Muslims who don’t follow the text and tenants of Islam and worry the most about the ones that do follow the texts and tenants. Indeed, it is the ones who follow the texts and tenants of Islam that we need to fear the most.

    I mean Muslims always make it a point to justify their acts of Islamic terrorism by citing the texts and tenants of Islam.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbeaux View Post
    I assure you, i do not make it a sport to run around torching Christians.


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    Carry on lying about Islam.
    I do not have time for fools like you obsessed with Islam
    I'd respect you more if you actually admitted it


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