Somethings take time, and when it comes to something like religion, that people are extremely passionate about, and often give their lives for. I would rather they take their time and not rush into anything. Mistakes happen when decisions are made too quickly.
Actually, Christianity always taught, "to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God’s." Thus, for some reason you are unfairly blaming the perversions of mankind on Christianity, at the same time that you are also attempting to idiotically equate Islam and Christianity. In any event, in the Islamic world under normal circumstances, and today isn’t a normal circumstance, Islam is the state.But we figured out that theocracy perverts the religion, takes it over, warps it to make it work for State ideals, power, and land. Christianity, in order to protect Christianity, divorced itself from government and we instead created secular governments.
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Hence, Islam is doomed to always remain antithetical to pluralistic modern societies. Indeed, the best thing the entire non-Islamic world can do is to disengage from the Dar al Islam and isolate it until it collapses in on itself and dies a slow lingering death, which will inevitably happen because Muslim are incapable of producing anything for themselves except for violence, bloodshed, and lots and lots of misery.
In any event, there are a lot of secular Muslims living in the West who are courageously trying to reform Islam in order to attempt to turn it into a peaceful religion compatible with modernity. However, if these same secular Muslims attempted to do what they are attempting to do inside the Dar al Islam instead, they would inevitably be declared heretics, charged with blasphemy, declared murtadd (apostates), and killed. Thus, except for minor influence only in the West and mostly among wishful thinkers, in the Islamic world these reform movements have exactly no influence and zero impact.
No Lives Matter
"In the Muslim community, the holy war [jihad] is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and the obligation to convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force ... The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense ... They are merely required to establish their religion among their own people. That is why the Israelites after Moses and Joshua remained unconcerned with royal authority [e.g., a caliphate]. Their only concern was to establish their religion [not spread it to the nations] … But Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations."
Are Judaism and Christianity as Violent as Islam? :: Middle East Quarterly
I have nothing to explain. All YOU have to do is demonstrate examples of child molesters or terrorists that have changed.
And for the other posts in this thread whining about 'genocide' or some such, reaching with palpable desperation--as always--for a tiny string to hang "racist!" on...
most folks are able to discern the difference between radical islamics and Muslims, especially because radical islamics will TELL you that they want you dead and want the end of your civilization.
They are far more honest about their intentions than the liberals who protect, support, encourage, and defend them.
To the extent than killing sworn enemies is a 'genocide', then let's get to it.
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T. Jefferson: 'There is not a truth existing which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world....