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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You've had fourteen hundred years. What's the hold up?
    It took Christianity as long, if not longer.

    And alot more blood was shed to achieve it


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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

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    Laila is certainly doing her share.

    Too bad you aren't listening.
    Oh, yeah. What's she doing?

    What active interest are we looking at here?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't disagree with that, but it isn't the government that is rioting over cartoons and crap like that.
    True, and if you did similar stuff against the Church in the middle ages, it wouldn't be the State rioting either. It would be the people. Because the State corrupts the religion and indoctrinates the people into that corrupted religion, reinforced through state run services such as education and press. So the people of such a theocracy will be the ones to riot because they've been taught to, and it's reinforced through every branch of government and society. It's a near guarantee that if you divorce the religion and the government, you can make marked improvements including the eventual extinction of rioting over mere cartoons and other extremist actions.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It took Christianity as long, if not longer.

    And alot more blood was shed to achieve it
    But, this is the 21st Century. I mean, c'mon. We're not talking about the 17th Century where reletives 20 miles apart didn't see each other for years at a time.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, this is the 21st Century. I mean, c'mon. We're not talking about the 17th Century where reletives 20 miles apart didn't see each other for years at a time.
    Doesn't matter.

    Don't expect Islam to speed up the process just because it is the 21st century.
    It will take as long as needed to achieve it

    Christians got a easy time.
    At least they had some form of heirarchy of authority. What do we have??


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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Doesn't matter.

    Don't expect Islam to speed up the process just because it is the 21st century.
    It will take as long as needed to achieve it

    Christians got a easy time.
    At least they had some form of heirarchy of authority. What do we have??
    I would say though that because we're living in a more enlightened age that the process should speed up a bit. There was a lot of ignorance to overcome back in the day, but humans have grown a lot since then. It's not hard to take a look around and see the changes and advancements. While maybe instantaneous shouldn't be expected, I would expect the process to be expedited a bit more. But you're going to need honest and open information flow to achieve that.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, this is the 21st Century. I mean, c'mon. We're not talking about the 17th Century where reletives 20 miles apart didn't see each other for years at a time.
    Yeah, and I would consider the fact that a majority of Muslims live in a particularly poor and uncivilized part of the world compared to Christians.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Yeah, and I would consider the fact that a majority of Muslims live in a particularly poor and uncivilized part of the world compared to Christians.
    The best way for tyrants to remain in charge is to keep their population poor and stupid.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The best way for tyrants to remain in charge is to keep their population poor and stupid.
    Exactly. That's why I applaud Iraq for sending 10,000 students to the US. It's definitely a step in the right direction.

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    Re: Eight Christians burnt to death in Pakistan after Koran is ‘defiled’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Yeah, and I would consider the fact that a majority of Muslims live in a particularly poor and uncivilized part of the world compared to Christians.
    Doesn't help when money flows into the dictators as well

    Saudi Arabia is at the centre of exporting its bull**** type of Islam. Remove it, you remove half the problems
    I have a Qu'ran from there and where it says in some verses 'slay the infidel' for example. It has in brackets "Christians and Jews" added into it
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