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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    For an example, let's use a movie you are all familiar with, Goodfellas. The bar kid Spider (played by Christopher Moltisanti (yeh I know)) pisses off Joe Pesci. Robert de Niro eggs him on, going "Tommy, you going to let this f***ing punk get away with that? What's this world coming to?" And Pesci shoots Spider.

    Now, de Niro never told Pesci to kill him, but he knew how to push his buttons. Rush, Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly, they are very good at pushing buttons. They are saying "We got a problem here, this country is in big trouble, what are you going to do about it?" You know this is true, if you deny it you are appeasing the violence. Now how about, for once, accepting the responsibility of stirring up all this hate, instead of just waiting for something to happen?
    That's just stupid. I mean, totally assinine. What you're talking about, is censorship. Censorship of political speech that you disagree with. Personally, I hope there are folks just hat stupid in the government. Well, I know there already are. I can't wait for them to do something that stupid. It will be just one more thing that will get them all voted out the next go-round.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Anybody with half a brain can tell somebody to do something without actually using a specific word or series of words. If I want someone to be dead all I have to say is "this person should be GONE. He is destroying America, he is raping our children, obliterating our children. He will destroy your families. He will destroy your faith." People will see that as an attack on themselves and act on it. To further the issue I could say "Somebody should be a true hero and stick up to this dictatorship. They should let the world know that nobody steps on the common man." Did I ever say that person should be killed? Nope. For all I know, my words meant "impeached" not "killed." However, some idiot would interpret those words in an extreme fashion.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

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    Anybody with half a brain can tell somebody to do something without actually using a specific word or series of words. If I want someone to be dead all I have to say is "this person should be GONE. He is destroying America, he is raping our children, obliterating our children. He will destroy your families. He will destroy your faith." People will see that as an attack on themselves and act on it. To further the issue I could say "Somebody should be a true hero and stick up to this dictatorship. They should let the world know that nobody steps on the common man." Did I ever say that person should be killed? Nope. For all I know, my words meant "impeached" not "killed." However, some idiot would interpret those words in an extreme fashion.

    Liberals wouldn't ever be allowed to say anything.
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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service
    According to these numbers--from the OP--Bush recieved nearly 100 death threats everyday.

    Another thing, what made this dumbass reporter think it's a good idea to publicize the first family's call signs? That's plumb crazy!
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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    According to these numbers--from the OP--Bush recieved nearly 100 death threats everyday
    3000 per year = ~8 1/5 per day

    Another thing, what made this dumbass reporter think it's a good idea to publicize the first family's call signs? That's plumb crazy!
    They aren't a secret. From wiki

    The United States Secret Service uses code names for U.S. presidents, first ladies, and other prominent persons and locations.[1] The use of such names was originally for security purposes and dates to a time when sensitive electronic communications were not routinely encrypted; today, the names simply serve for purposes of brevity, clarity, and tradition.
    When they were chosen it was in the news for a day or so
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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    The racists in this nation are in full frenzy. They can't handle that a man with dark skin is in the white house and they will do whatever their right wing nuttery selves will do to make things worse for the president. All those denying this is a fact ought to pull their heads out of the sand or their asses, whichever is appropriate.
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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    3000 per year = ~8 1/5 per day



    They aren't a secret. From wiki



    When they were chosen it was in the news for a day or so
    Man, my math skills suck...lol.

    I thought they were kept classified. Why have codenames if they're going to be made public?
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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's just stupid. I mean, totally assinine. What you're talking about, is censorship. Censorship of political speech that you disagree with. Personally, I hope there are folks just hat stupid in the government. Well, I know there already are. I can't wait for them to do something that stupid. It will be just one more thing that will get them all voted out the next go-round.
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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    Anybody with half a brain can tell somebody to do something without actually using a specific word or series of words. If I want someone to be dead all I have to say is "this person should be GONE. He is destroying America, he is raping our children, obliterating our children. He will destroy your families. He will destroy your faith." People will see that as an attack on themselves and act on it. To further the issue I could say "Somebody should be a true hero and stick up to this dictatorship. They should let the world know that nobody steps on the common man." Did I ever say that person should be killed? Nope. For all I know, my words meant "impeached" not "killed." However, some idiot would interpret those words in an extreme fashion.
    Examples, please.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    For an example, let's use a movie you are all familiar with, Goodfellas. The bar kid Spider (played by Christopher Moltisanti (yeh I know)) pisses off Joe Pesci. Robert de Niro eggs him on, going "Tommy, you going to let this f***ing punk get away with that? What's this world coming to?" And Pesci shoots Spider.

    Now, de Niro never told Pesci to kill him, but he knew how to push his buttons. Rush, Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly, they are very good at pushing buttons. They are saying "We got a problem here, this country is in big trouble, what are you going to do about it?" You know this is true, if you deny it you are appeasing the violence. Now how about, for once, accepting the responsibility of stirring up all this hate, instead of just waiting for something to happen?
    You have got to be kidding ...

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