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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You just said that republicans are wishing for and encouraging people to kill the president. If that ain't fearmongering, then I don't know what is.
    I did not say that. Read my posts again and stop trying to put words in my mouth.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    None of the aforementioned Conservative TV/radio personalities may have said it, but they certainly don't do much to quail the fear and anxiety of their listeners. If anything, they want them pissed off so that they'll do "something". What that "something" might be none of us knows. The hope is they just get more involved with politics or a hot-button issue they're passionate about and take a political stand against it, i.e., write their Congressman, form a protest rally (i.e., a Tea Party ), start a petition. But I'm willing to bet if President Obama...let's just say if an attempt was made on his life...not one of them would mourn for him.


    Are you sure you never said that?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    You can inflame a crowd all you want to insight them and possibly provoke them to anger, but that doesn't mean you told them to commit a crime. To that, I did NOT say that Conservative talk radio hosts/hostesses are telling their listeners to go out and break the law. Not once did I say that.

    What I did say was they are playing on their fears and anxieties. BIG DIFFERENCE!

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't think so. It's no different that a newspaper printing false information. Of course, it's all opinionated to a high degree, but my point is politically motivated talk radio - be it Conservative or Liberal - do that same thing: play to their listening audience.
    That may be the case, but they have no responsibility to their audience to do anything beyond entertain them. If they want someone to allay their fears, they need to seek out a psychiatrist or a member of the clergy.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    CO,

    I'll agree with that.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You can inflame a crowd all you want to insight them and possibly provoke them to anger, but that doesn't mean you told them to commit a crime. To that, I did NOT say that Conservative talk radio hosts/hostesses are telling their listeners to go out and break the law. Not once did I say that.

    What I did say was they are playing on their fears and anxieties. BIG DIFFERENCE!
    Fearmongering!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Do the people who actually attack presidents generally send threats first?
    The secret service doesn't just check out nasty emails and letters. I bet they have someone reading this board.

    And two people reading Free Republic and other far-right fridge boards.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Fearmongering!
    Tell that to Rush!

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    Attn2 Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And two people reading Free Republic and other far-right fridge boards.
    I was part of a site that documented some of the insanity over there for a while ("some," because there was way too much for us to keep track of). That place is slightly to the left of Storm Front.

    For a real example from FR, Google "Matsuidon."

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nameless fringe radicals, yes. Just like there were nameless fringe radicals that wished for Bush's death.

    However, I dare you to show me where any of the formentioned have, even remotely, suggested, wish, cheered, pushed, hinted at, or otherwise condoned anyone doing harm to the president. Looking forward to hearing back on that one.
    For an example, let's use a movie you are all familiar with, Goodfellas. The bar kid Spider (played by Christopher Moltisanti (yeh I know)) pisses off Joe Pesci. Robert de Niro eggs him on, going "Tommy, you going to let this f***ing punk get away with that? What's this world coming to?" And Pesci shoots Spider.

    Now, de Niro never told Pesci to kill him, but he knew how to push his buttons. Rush, Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly, they are very good at pushing buttons. They are saying "We got a problem here, this country is in big trouble, what are you going to do about it?" You know this is true, if you deny it you are appeasing the violence. Now how about, for once, accepting the responsibility of stirring up all this hate, instead of just waiting for something to happen?
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