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    rolleyes Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    That's like blaming the bullets for all the gun deaths. Who did the lunatic listen to on the radio while he was cleaning his guns. Where did he get the idea that killing Tiller would be a good thing. How about placing blame on those that pushed this guys buttons, that would be the responsible thing to do.
    A) How do you know what he heard and what gave him the idea, and B) just how far back up the chain should we go? You know, if it wasn't for his parents bearing and raising him, none of this would have happened, so I guess we ought to blame them too, right?

    Reminds me of a Monty Python sketch where a defendant blames society and the prosecutor says he'll be charging them, too.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    That's like blaming the bullets for all the gun deaths. Who did the lunatic listen to on the radio while he was cleaning his guns. Where did he get the idea that killing Tiller would be a good thing. How about placing blame on those that pushed this guys buttons, that would be the responsible thing to do.
    Now you are claiming you know who Tiller was listening to on the radio?

    Hang on, I am getting my HIP waders for this debate; it's getting real deep in here.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'd say that the number of racial hate groups (KKK, skinheads, etc.) in this country would probably be evidence enough for that.
    I dunno P, the KKK is not anywhere near the levels of power it had in the late 1800's to mid 1900's, they are still around, but have overall been neutered since the civil rights movement, I know some of the guys, all they really do now is bitch and whine about how the black man is holding them down() most of them are idiots to begin with, so that may have more to do with it moreso than someone else getting preferential treatment. Skinheads are mostly annoyances, they are sneaky when it comes to what they do, but they aren't terribly well organized. With Barack Obama, even in the very deep south I don't hear anything about the color of his skin being the problem, it is about his condecending attitude, arrogance, ideology, and overall governance, this administration brings an absolute ire to many americans that the Clinton administration couldn't, hell, we even laughed at Jimmy Carter more than anything because it was pathetic, but this particular administration because of many factors just pisses many people off, which I personally believe is more the culprit than racism.
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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Let's see black man, that's gonna raise the ire of some morons.

    He's a radical who is pushing for big government in ways not seen since FDR...

    H'es appologizing for America at everyturn...

    He's really not a very nice guy.

    Add all that up and you get... death threats.
    According to your logic then, both Reagan and Bush 44 should have more death threats. But I suppose it would be too much to ask for you to actually get some facts, just for once. You know, actually go to the Treasurydirect.gov website, look up the history of our rise in national debt. Or I suppose you could also just ignore looking at Clinton's budget's, really good to look at the surpluses, especially the one he handed Bush 44. Never mind that the economy Bush 44 handed over was a bleeping you know what.

    FYI, you know you conservatives should also either educate yourselves more or be honest in calculating the estimated total cost for the Iraq war will essentially double Bush 44's contribution to the national debt. With that my god it would take Clinton 60 years to match President George W.Bush

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    According to your logic then, both Reagan and Bush 44 should have more death threats. But I suppose it would be too much to ask for you to actually get some facts, just for once. You know, actually go to the Treasurydirect.gov website, look up the history of our rise in national debt. Or I suppose you could also just ignore looking at Clinton's budget's, really good to look at the surpluses, especially the one he handed Bush 44. Never mind that the economy Bush 44 handed over was a bleeping you know what.

    FYI, you know you conservatives should also either educate yourselves more or be honest in calculating the estimated total cost for the Iraq war will essentially double Bush 44's contribution to the national debt. With that my god it would take Clinton 60 years to match President George W.Bush
    Seriously, you asking for facts? Pot meet kettle much. What else, you tell people to get educated while you attack president Reagan and Bush 44. Okay, where are your FACTS that most of the death threats are race related, and what is the criteria? Did it come from racialist groups, or were there epithets used? C'mon, bring it, all you are doing is singing it right now.
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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    According to your logic then, both Reagan and Bush 44 should have more death threats. But I suppose it would be too much to ask for you to actually get some facts, just for once. You know, actually go to the Treasurydirect.gov website, look up the history of our rise in national debt. Or I suppose you could also just ignore looking at Clinton's budget's, really good to look at the surpluses, especially the one he handed Bush 44. Never mind that the economy Bush 44 handed over was a bleeping you know what.

    FYI, you know you conservatives should also either educate yourselves more or be honest in calculating the estimated total cost for the Iraq war will essentially double Bush 44's contribution to the national debt. With that my god it would take Clinton 60 years to match President George W.Bush
    The above highlights the definition of profound irony; a Liberal making farcical claims to defend his politicians failures claiming that it is Conservatives who need education; truly laughable and ironic.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I don't know where you learned how to debate, but that's not how it works. You aren't going to win any arguments by making crap up. That's not at all what I said. If your reading comprehension is the issue then just re-read what I posted until you understand. Okay, brah?
    This is exactly what you said:
    Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick
    Oh come on. That's not even a remotely honest way to frame that argument. You are assuming both men are on equal playing ground. However, we've had nothing but white Presidents since this country was founded. Obama is the first black one. Of course it's quite likely that a lot of racial hate groups are going to make death threats.
    You leave zero wiggle room for the increase in death threats from Bush's admin to PBO's to be attributable to anything other than racism.

    If you're deabting skills and you ability to understand your own comments, then perhaps you should pay some extra education. It's nothing to embaressed about, we all need a helping hand sometimes.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Just throwing some meat into the middle of the argument:

    Jim Adkisson - Shooting that killed 2 people - Targeted Liberals - Follower of Bernie Goldberg.....

    This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book. I'd like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn't get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chicken**** liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It's the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence."
    If not that, how about this:

    Nancy Genovese - FEMA - Glenn Beck - Myspace - Nut- berzerk

    My whole point is this. People who are nuts just look for reasons, or excuses. But that by no means should leave people free in terms of their journalistic responsibility, or professional ethics. They can disagree with politics until they are blue in the face, but deliberate fear mongering and whipping up hatred has never had a positive effect. Don't believe me, please go ask John McCain how he felt after seeing the rising anger, and more specifically his response at calming the emotion (KUDOS to McCain )

    There is a level of responsibility people do have when reaching prominent positions. One role they have is to not fan the flames of hatred and violence.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post

    My whole point is this. People who are nuts just look for reasons, or excuses. But that by no means should leave people free in terms of their journalistic responsibility, or professional ethics. They can disagree with politics until they are blue in the face, but deliberate fear mongering and whipping up hatred has never had a positive effect. Don't believe me, please go ask John McCain how he felt after seeing the rising anger, and more specifically his response at calming the emotion (KUDOS to McCain )

    There is a level of responsibility people do have when reaching prominent positions. One role they have is to not fan the flames of hatred and violence.
    I would suggest you learn a little something about journalism, it's branches, and what ethics apply to each branch before making any further claims. I already know what you are claiming here is false, and that there won't be any legal penalties because they don't apply.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    That's like blaming the bullets for all the gun deaths. Who did the lunatic listen to on the radio while he was cleaning his guns. Where did he get the idea that killing Tiller would be a good thing. How about placing blame on those that pushed this guys buttons, that would be the responsible thing to do.



    Prove your speculation he listened to talk radio while cleaning his guns, or is this another made up lie on your part.

    Also prove that talk radio suggested that anyone be killed. lie #2
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