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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So, in Pete world, a woman can have 5 children, physically abuse all of them, and you're in favor of her being able to continue to breed more offspring to abuse.
    Because gods know we can't just sterilize her or put a bullet in her or do anything that might violate her right to subject us to her vile terror spawn until her womb dies of natural causes.

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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Have you proven that these people have not committed crimes?
    Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I know I know...freedom's a bitch.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Her own sister is calling for her tube cutting.
    That's because those of us who deal with these situations face to face, rather than metaphorically, realize that when society's high moral principles encounter life-ruiners, there is a catastrophic collision, and people, usually innocent children, get hurt.

    However as a principle I am against forced sterilization or birth control unless as I stated, in extreme cases and only a case by case basis.
    Well, DUH.

    Should the woman in your example have her tubes tied?
    I was thinking Norplant by sniper rifle, but I'd be okay with tubal ligation.

    Maybe, but how about if she was not abusing her kids but only unemployed and living off the state?
    NO.

    A woman having a kid with a Muslim?
    No.

    How about a woman having a 3rd child with a 3rd man?
    Only if she has failed to properly care for the first two.

    How about a lesbian? Or is it just drug addicts? How about former druggies? Drunks? people that smoke?
    Your use of the slippery slope fallacy is noted.

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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I know I know...freedom's a bitch.
    That's not what I'm talking about, Yankee Doodle. I'm saying: Do you know definitively that these people who are being subjected to this monitoring weren't guilty of criminal child abuse?

    You don't.

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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I was thinking Norplant by sniper rifle, but I'd be okay with tubal ligation.
    That's funny as hell.
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's funny as hell.
    It's possible I've spent too much time contemplating the subject:

    "What I'd do if I were dictator of the world."

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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    It's possible I've spent too much time contemplating the subject:

    "What I'd do if I were dictator of the world."
    It's more efficient your way, I like it!
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's more efficient your way, I like it!
    Item 1:

    Norplant all the stupid people, post haste.

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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Item 1:

    Norplant all the stupid people, post haste.
    I think my real issue with this is that the people who are causing problems aren't being arrested. It seems there is a large gap between extreme measures and nothing measures.

    From what gunner has said these people and their children should have already been prosecuted and imprisoned.
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    From what gunner has said these people and their children should have already been prosecuted and imprisoned.
    People are almost never imprisoned for child abuse unless someone is raped or died.

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