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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No.



    And then you went on from there.
    Pardon me, I will be sure to be more clear in my definitons from hence forward.

    I do not see it as madness for those that abuse the system. It will no doubt be a deterrant.
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I find it reprehensible that anyone would consider doing this, if these parents are so horrible they should either have their children taken or be arrested.

    It's even crazier that anyone would support this, it doesn't matter if it isn't you because it just opens the door to them extending it to other groups.
    It's interesting that no Brits have offered any opinions here.
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    I scrolled through this thread to see if any of our friends from the UK have weighed in on this yet. I hope they organize and take this to the streets. Government has no business installing cameras in anyones home.
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Pardon me, I will be sure to be more clear in my definitons from hence forward.
    I think you were, but decided to backpedal.


    I do not see it as madness for those that abuse the system. It will no doubt be a deterrant.
    There is no circumstance under which this has a place in a free society. You give them the money or you don't, but either way, they do NOT forfeit their rights just because they use a government service, any more than you do using another state's roads.
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I think you were, but decided to backpedal.
    I assure you that I was only speaking about the lifers.



    There is no circumstance under which this has a place in a free society. You give them the money or you don't, but either way, they do NOT forfeit their rights just because they use a government service, any more than you do using another state's roads.
    Apparently, you and I disagree about what freedom is.

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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I assure you that I was only speaking about the lifers.
    If you say so. Not that it matters.



    Apparently, you and I disagree about what freedom is.
    Apparently so. My concept of it is that basic civil liberties as recognized in the Bill of Rights and elsewhere apply equally to everyone not duly convicted of a crime. Yours, clearly, is different.
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    They will be monitored to ensure that children attend school, go to bed on time and eat proper meals.
    If parents cannot do that then they shouldn't be parents to begin with and who says what is a 'proper meal'?

    'aka the end of liberty in Britain'
    The end of liberty? You mean that didn't happen years ago?

    Labour has been doing this for a while now and in many areas of life.
    For example I have to actually be careful of where i place my recycling lest my council fine and drag me to court

    Am i the only Brit with the 'black box' for paper, 'grey' for food and items that can decompose and 'green' for plastic and it has to be filled out correctly?
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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's interesting that no Brits have offered any opinions here.
    I just noticed the thread probably the same for other Brits


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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    For example I have to actually be careful of where i place my recycling lest my council fine and drag me to court
    That's ridiculous too. Well, I know what would be in my recycling bin then.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES (aka the end of liberty in Britain)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's ridiculous too. Well, I know what would be in my recycling bin then.
    It is annoying when i have to spend a while ensuring i don't mix them up.
    Councils are just like that.
    They will fine if your dog is off a leash, poo of the streets.
    Chewing gum, drop litter = fine

    Its a easy way for them to get more money.


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