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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Obama Renews Vow of No Middle-Class Tax Increase
    WASHINGTON — The White House tried Monday to douse speculation that it might raise taxes on the middle class in violation of President Obama’s campaign promise, just a day after two of his top economic advisers left the door open to such a move to rein in spiraling deficits.

    Mr. Obama told his economic team in a meeting at the White House that he intended to stand by his promise not to increase taxes on families making less than $250,000, aides said. He then sent his spokesman out to repeat that message in front of the television cameras.

    “The president made a commitment in the campaign. He’s clear about that commitment, and he’s going to keep it,” said Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary.

    The renewal of the promise came a day after Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner and Lawrence H. Summers, director of the National Economic Council, both refused to rule out tax increases on the middle class while discussing ways to pare the deficit. The two were speaking on separate Sunday morning talk shows, venues where administration officials are usually well prepared on the official line before appearing.

    “It’s never a good idea to absolutely rule things out no matter what,” Mr. Summers said on “Face the Nation” on CBS. Mr. Geithner, on ABC’s “This Week With George Stephanopoulos,” said, “We can’t make these judgments yet about exactly what it’s going to take” to tame the deficit.

    Conservative critics interpreted those comments as laying the groundwork for trying to wriggle out of Mr. Obama’s campaign pledge.

    “Obama should fire Geithner and Summers,” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, a group that opposes tax increases. They “went on national television and implied the president lied his way into office and that he is open to raising taxes.”
    Hey Grover, how is your buddy Jack doing getting raped in prison. Wish you could join him soon.

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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    This is a particularly stupid strawman argument, which unfortunately pops up with regularity. If someone argues that there should be NO taxes yet there should still be services, then this holds. But unless that's what they're arguing, it doesn't.




    Is he actually claiming that if you got a 4% mortgage that roads wouldn't be built?
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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    so you would prefer no taxes and no services, and no government, just you and your gun against the world. Well, unfortunately that is not an option, the citizens of the US decided against that position about 150 years ago.


    So Will sees one strawmans, and doubles down......
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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    For many in your camp, what is "necessary" includes only bullets and bibles, the rest they will get for themselves.



    This is a lie, based on your strawman that you built on the other strawman. Please back up your claim with facts, Thank you.
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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    How is it a "pirouette"? No one ever said taxes would be raised, they just refused to promise they wouldn't be raised. Only a fool would make a no-tax pledge.



    will called Obama a fool and doesn't even realize it....



    The Associated Press: Analysis: Obama struggling to keep no-tax pledge


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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Read their lips: Mixed signals from Obama team on taxes | csmonitor.com
    Although Barack Obama campaigned on a pledge of no tax hikes on the middle class, top administration officials on Sunday appeared to open the door to rethinking that position. Then on Monday the White House press secretary said the door really isn’t open.

    Either way, the discussion of possible tax hikes is already out of the stable. Economists generally agree with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner that the nation is on an unsustainable fiscal path, and that hard choices will need to be made – although the reckoning may not occur on Mr. Obama’s watch. Some say the magnitude of the hole to be filled is so large that spending cuts alone are unlikely to do the job.

    So either Dear Leader is truly Prez Doofus, or Tiny Tim is stuck in full retard mode, or Dear Leader is doing the Kerry Two-Step of being opposed to taxes after being for taxes after being opposed to taxes (all in the same news cycle).


    Either way....Americans are well advised to cling to their wallets along with their guns and their Bibles.

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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Taxes had better go up. We were running on credit back when the bailouts were going on. Since then we've tacked on top the stimulus and health care. I for one don't want to find out what the limit on that credit card from China is.
    I have a better idea:

    Stop spending more money than you take in.

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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I have a better idea:

    Stop spending more money than you take in.
    That's a great idea, but maybe first we better fix the mess left by 8 years of Republican incompetence.

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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Just pointing out that your "ideal government" has already been shown not to work.
    Wow. A false premise -and- a non-sequitur, all in one line of text.
    Well done!

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    Re: 2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    That's a great idea, but maybe first we better fix the mess left by 8 years of Republican incompetence.
    Its a great idea, period.
    But then, you're only interetsed in furthering the power of your masters, rather than acting on good ideas.

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