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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    It wasn't a claim, but an opinion. Notice how I never posted any dazzling statistics. I just felt it was a waste of resources, nothing more. It was Right who said that the value of the PR outweighs the cost of finding them... he then went on further to ask me if I have some insider information I'm not disclosing. So, while he's at it, he can provide me with some sources.
    Why do you feel its a waste of resources? If during routine expeditions and searches in Iraq they found this man's remains, that would be a waste of resources to you? Right was ALSO stating an opinion, not an absolute fact, that he believes finding, confirming, and releasing information on missing soldiers is a reasonable use of funds. Why must his opinion be quantified with actual numbers before yours is?

    Now STOP butting your nose in and give him a chance to answer me. Thanks!
    And last time I checked, freedom of speech is preserved on these forums. If you don't like hearing people inject negative comments, then you shouldn't come here at all.


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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Second... there is obviously just a difference in views. If I were head of the military, and thankfully I'm not, I would not waste resources to find a body. We already know he's dead. Life goes on. I'd rather invest those resources on living people in the field.
    The US military makes a commitment to never leave a fallen comrade in the field. The DPMO is still unearthing remains from the Vietnam War. For those who have spent forty or more years waiting for their loved one's return, it is very well worth the expenditure, and we can do nothing less than whatever it takes to find and return those remains.

    Frankly, I don't have a lot of respect for those who think otherwise.

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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Wow, what a waste of resources.
    And your opinion matters, why? How Americans choose to spend our money is not your concern.

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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Why do you feel its a waste of resources? If during routine expeditions and searches in Iraq they found this man's remains, that would be a waste of resources to you? Right was ALSO stating an opinion, not an absolute fact, that he believes finding, confirming, and releasing information on missing soldiers is a reasonable use of funds. Why must his opinion be quantified with actual numbers before yours is?
    Why does anyone's opinion have to be quantified? This particular discussion is very opinion oriented, evidenced by the fact that the U.S. is willing to search for its people indefinitely, while other countries would not be. Your country's policy, your country's choice. Why do I need to prove that my opinion is just as valid as yours?

    Given this, Right asked me for a source first. He believed that the PR was worth it, and I didn't agree. Obviously there is no winning that argument. He started the quantification, not me. So stop spinning it to make it look like I'm the one who has been demanding proof all along, and not respecting opinion-based discussion.

    I think it's a waste of resources. Your country can do whatever it wants.

    And... if you want to spin words I said in the past about freedom of speech, at least make sure they are applicable. I never told you to stop posting (which was what someone told me to do, which was why I made a comment about freedom of speech), I told you to stop arguing on behalf of others. RightinNYC will reply when he means to.

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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    And your opinion matters, why? How Americans choose to spend our money is not your concern.
    You can take my opinion with a grain of salt if you want, as I will yours... but people from all over the world come to participate here, not just Americans.

    Get over yourself.

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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    What resources were wasted?

    If there are resources within or outside our military that are dedicated to the search and recovery of fallen military members, thats not a waste of resources, thats called using them for their intended purpose.
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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    You can take my opinion with a grain of salt if you want, as I will yours... but people from all over the world come to participate here, not just Americans.

    Get over yourself.
    Your opinion is irrelevant. This involves an internal American matter and given that you don't pay taxes here, your opinion of how we spend our money is of no importance.

    Get over yourself. You don't get to tell us what our priorities are or should be.

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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Your opinion is irrelevant. This involves an internal American matter and given that you don't pay taxes here, your opinion of how we spend our money is of no importance.

    Get over yourself. You don't get to tell us what our priorities are or should be.
    I wasn't trying to dictate your priotities? Stop being so defensive.

    You can stop attacking me for not being American any time now. Thanks.

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    Re: Remains of U.S. Pilot Missing 18 Years in Iraq Found

    Listen Orius, this is essentially an obituary thread. You made an insensitive comment and people are holding your feet to the fire for it.
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