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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Amazing what you people will do to avoid the correct definitions of words and proper uses of logic, isn't it?

    Something is offered for sale, a person finds a way to copy it without paying for it.

    Theft, plain and simple.

    Live with it, stop hiding what you are, come out of the closet and move to San Francisco.
    TravelSonic is right. Copyright infringment is not technically theft though it does share similiarities.

    However, its amusing he gets his panties in a knot over the use of colloquial language rather than over disagreements of substance.
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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    I agree with that. I don't care what the law is either. But I also don't feel sympathy when people like the thief in the example here get caught. And, of course, laws against theft are just laws.
    Laws are great when they are created with justice in mind.
    When they are protectionist to an industry not so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So? We can't stop people from murdering people or holding up banks or any other innumerable illegal activities. It doesn't mean we make them legal. The laws are used to formally charge and punish offenders for violations. The laws aren't used to catch offenders.
    Then charge everyone for violating copyright.

    Murder and robbery does not equal piracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So?

    It's the law.

    What you're saying is that the law needs more funds for more effectively enforcement.

    It does to the person who's being robbed, but that's a fine sounding excuse for the thief to haul out and show around.
    Go right ahead prosecute everyone for piracy.
    I bet it would cost more than the health care bill in congress to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    And now that we have that cleared up, the cheapskate thieves stealing music and video are depriving the owners of that material their fee, so it really is theft.
    If someone is stealing their property why didn't they call the police then?
    I mean if it happens so much, it should be easy to catch them in the act.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Where's the injustice of the owner of a property requiring payment before that product is taken?

    Oh, the injustice is that poor little college babies will have to spend their own money? How awful. Stolen music is so essential to keeping body and soul together, isn't it?
    Payment for what?

    It has a zero value, supply and demand are funny like that.

    When there is infinite supply of something, the price of that something is zero unless demand is infinity + 1.
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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    No, the constitution recognizes copyright/patents, not the abstract concept of IP that it has encompassed and confused the three. Anyways, you can't possibly be thick, so stop playing stupid and actually address the issue addressed in the post you responded. How is copyright lasting for over 100 years beneficial, or even in line with what the founding fathers intended? How do creators possibly benefit from such a long term, and how does the public benefit if the length of time before a work goes into and enriches the public domain is lengthened?
    I think you need to read my post again, champ

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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Question I have about this whole thing is this: Who in their right mind would agree to almost 3/4 of a million dollars being a reasonable fine in the first place?

    How does such a fine even make sense in the scheme of things?
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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    FWIW from the time the RIAA sent him a letter notifying him of the lawsuit until the verdict was rendered, there was a standing offer to settle for $4,000

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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Then charge everyone for violating copyright.
    With what evidence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Murder and robbery does not equal piracy.
    Irrelevant to my point. We can't stop people from murdering people or holding up banks or any other innumerable illegal activities. It doesn't mean we make the activities legal.
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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    TravelSonic is right. Copyright infringment is not technically theft though it does share similiarities.

    However, its amusing he gets his panties in a knot over the use of colloquial language rather than over disagreements of substance.
    Morally, it's theft.

    In everyday parlance of people who aren't bottom-feeding ****bag attorneys, it's theft.

    He needs to deal with it.

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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If someone is stealing their property why didn't they call the police then?
    This is the level of your argument, the fifth grade?

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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Question I have about this whole thing is this: Who in their right mind would agree to almost 3/4 of a million dollars being a reasonable fine in the first place?

    How does such a fine even make sense in the scheme of things?
    Works for me.

    Then again, I'm not trying to justify theft, and don't steal music off the internet.

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    Re: Student ordered to pay $650,000 for downloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Morally, it's theft.

    In everyday parlance of people who aren't bottom-feeding ****bag attorneys, it's theft.

    He needs to deal with it.
    Fine, it's theft.

    But it's a variety of theft I not only accept but openly support.

    The internet and digital era are a new and important landmark for our species. It has changed how we communicate and transmit information, and will surely have long-term impacts on our growth as a global society.

    That matters way more to me than some companies maximizing profit. They can exist with less but will always want more. This kind of agenda will not serve them in the long run.

    Got any more hysterical, moral expletives you want to toss my way?

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