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    High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    Parents can slap and even kick their children when chastising them, one of the country's top judges has said.

    The remarks, which will add to the already fierce debate about whether parents should be able to physically discipline their children, came at London's Appeal Court.

    It is the first time that the courts have drawn a line at which the 'reasonable' point of punishing children becomes physical abuse.

    Ruling in a case in which a local authority had wanted to take three children into care where there had been allegation of abuse, Lady Justice Hallett said: 'Reasonable physical chastisement of children by parents is not yet unlawful in this country.'

    She went on: 'Slaps and even kicks vary enormously in their seriousness.
    'A kick sounds particularly unpleasant, yet many a parent may have nudged their child's nappied bottom with their foot in gentle play, without committing an assault.

    'Many a parent will have slapped a child on the hand to make the point that running out into a busy road is a dangerous thing to do.'
    But last night those who want smacking to be made illegal said the judge's comments underlined exactly why a new law was needed.
    Physically punishing a child is NOT against the law: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse | Mail Online

    Well its good discipling children is not made against the law despite the ludicrous campaign by NSPCC


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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    Score one for common sense over political correctness.




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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    Score one for common sense over political correctness.
    I'll drink to that!

    The Government complains children have no discipline or respect and then seeks to restrain a parent from establishing control over children


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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    I am actually surprised that is is still legal to discipline your child in the UK of all places. I thought that such a pc country by now would have banned corporal punishment and made grounding a child to his room a form of torture.
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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am actually surprised that is is still legal to discipline your child in the UK of all places. I thought that such a pc country by now would have banned corporal punishment and made grounding to his room a form of torture.
    The high court's common sense prevailed.

    There was a attempt (by the nuts) to make smacking or raising voice etc. illegal and child abuse in UK


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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The high court's common sense prevailed.

    There was a attempt (by the nuts) to make smacking or raising voice etc. illegal and child abuse in UK
    Yeah that sounds about right.
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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    Using physical behavior to discipline your child indicates a weakness in the parent, IMO. Plain and simple.

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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Using physical behavior to discipline your child indicates a weakness in the parent, IMO. Plain and simple.
    Your opinion.
    You discipline your children how you please.
    Just ensure no one prevents me from disciplining mine if need be


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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Your opinion.
    You discipline your children how you please.
    Just ensure no one prevents me from disciplining mine if need be
    Clearly, I said "in my opinion," Laila. I know why you're saying this. You think its appropriate to physically assault your niece. That tells me you're weak. And, yes, of course it's JMO. Your defensiveness is humorous and somewhat pathetic, IMO.

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    Re: High Court draws line between discipline and physical abuse

    I know

    Absolutely i support physical discipline when called for.
    I think my sister in law is pathetic and a absolute fool to not discipline her children so much so that it falls on me to establish the rules
    Last edited by Laila; 07-31-09 at 09:07 PM.


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