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Jerry, Tucker:
Get a room.
Good point. I'll recuse myself from this discussion.
Jerry, Tucker:
Get a room.
Good point. I'll recuse myself from this discussion.
Perchance could you have meant "rescue"?
Drug use is an unenumerated right per the Ninth Amendment. It always helps to read the WHOLE document instead of just latching onto the Amendments you find personally convenient.
No... I meant recuse. Although remove might be more accurate.
Most notably, while the 9th states that there are rights other than those noted in the Constitution, it does NOT prescribe any degree of protection for those rights.The Ninth Amendment was put there to ensure that CONSTITUTIONAL rights are not the ONLY rights. It's funny how it's been interpreted to be the reverse of what was intended- now, apparently, all rights are Constitutional, and the judicial branch can make up any BS "right" it wants to and say it is "unenumerated". It even makes clear that the rights are "retained by the people"- not the Federal Government.
I understand the rationale against Federal drug laws, but for drug use to be a right that even state and local laws can't restrict?
Ok. :neutral:What he did was legal, but imo he used excessive force by jumping directly to lethal force when his life was not in danger.
Someone broke into your home...that doesn't mean you just pull out a gun and shoot them.
And why fight with the kid after shooting him? Shoot him again, damnit. Don't have a slap fight all around your property.
Good riddance.Good point. I'll recuse myself from this discussion.
Why jump right to lethal force, though?Ok. :neutral:
Why fight the kid after shooting him?
Gee, I don't know?
Maybe the kid called him dad after he shot him and said it in such a way that the guy could see the kid was just f'd up and knew his life wasn't in danger. ???
From the story:Why jump right to lethal force, though?
KEVIL, KY (KFVS) - A man was shot and killed in McCracken County after police say he tried to break into a family's home around 2:00 a.m.
The family woke to the sound of the alarm system, indicating the door to the attached garage had been opened. The homeowner went outside to investigate, when he heard his wife inside screaming.
He ran back into the home where his wife told him the intruder, later identified as 18-year-old Andrew Caleb Barnett, was inside their attached garage attempting to get into the home through a wooden door with a window, according to police. The homeowner reportedly yelled several times that he had a gun, telling Barnett not to come inside. However, Barnett continued to make advances toward the man
From the story:
It doesn't sound like he jumped to deadly force.
Once you make it very clear that you have a gun and that you will use it, an advance towards you is a clear illustration that your life is in danger.
No way to know that, and stupid to assume so. The homeowner gave clear, fair warning that he had the capacity to use deadly force -- and THEN the kid moved toward him.Or that the guy is up on shrumes, thinks he's at home, your his dad, and wants nothing more then to go to bed and your life isn't actually in any danger at all.
Yes -- because warning the kid several times is clearly the use of deadly force.Your quote of the story shoes that the home owner did jump directly to lethal force.
What's your point?No way to know that, and stupid to assume so. The homeowner gave clear, fair warning that he had the capacity to use deadly force -- and THEN the kid moved toward him.
At some point, you have to decide that your life is in danger, or its not. The homeowner decided that it was, and defended himself. His call, not yours.
Best to be judged by 12 then carried by 6 -- and, since charges are not expected against the homeowner, it appears the 12 arent going to be consulted.
And, lets be real -- does knowing that someone is on drugs mean your life is less threatened?
Yes -- because warning the kid several times is clearly the use of deadly force.
If someone breaks into my home, I will break out a gun and shoot him.Someone broke into your home...that doesn't mean you just pull out a gun and shoot them.
The target market would be more likely to utilize such a facility if- instead of touting "safety" as its main attraction- one made it really "fun". You know, lots of psychedelic stuff to look at and play with, cool music, trippy movies to watch, black light and body paint. Padded walls are fine; hell, put a moonwalk in there.
The "staff" would need to just sort of blend into the woodwork, unless needed, otherwise they'd cause inhibition and paranoia.
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Someone broke into your home...that doesn't mean you just pull out a gun and shoot them.
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THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF HE DIDN'T HAVE A GUN!!!:roll:
It works both ways.:2wave:
If someone breaks into my home, I will break out a gun and shoot him.
Excatly, I mean asking him nicely not to rape your wife or daughter or slaughtering you always works better! :ssst:
If someone breaks into my home, I will break out a gun and shoot him.
If someone breaks into my home, I will break out a gun and shoot him.
Excatly, I mean asking him nicely not to rape your wife or daughter or slaughtering you always works better! :ssst:
If someonje breaks into my home, there won't be any need to, "break out", a gun. A gun is within arm's reach, anywhere in my home.
Wow, you must have a vast arsenal of guns.
Or else a very small home.
Someone broke into your home...that doesn't mean you just pull out a gun and shoot them.
If someone breaks into my home, I will break out a gun and shoot him.
Your point?
My point is obvious. My point is that when someone breaks into your home, it does mean you just pull out a gun and shoot him.
Alternative phrasing: you're wrong.