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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Hitler was trying to "cleanse the gene pool".
    Hitler tried to purify the gene pool. I'm only suggesting that we prevent it, through matural selection, from being polluted.

    This guy had plenty of time to call the police, but he decided he didn't need the police because he had a gun. He was untrained, inexperienced in the behavior of home intruders, and knew nothing except how to pull a trigger.
    Call the police, for what? So they can clean up the mess and tag the bodies if the dude had been a blood thirsty killer?

    Do you ever get drunk? You yourself are a dumbass at that moment, and could stumble into a life or death situation without being aware of it. The more freedom people have to take the law into their hands, the more mistakes will be made. Congratulations.
    Oh yeah! Been drunker than a ****house rat; ****ed up like a snake in a lawnmower; higher than a rat on acid; and have never, ever, not even close tried to get into the wrong house, by mistake, or otherwise.
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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Hitler was trying to "cleanse the gene pool".
    This guy had plenty of time to call the police, but he decided he didn't need the police because he had a gun. He was untrained, inexperienced in the behavior of home intruders, and knew nothing except how to pull a trigger. Do you ever get drunk? You yourself are a dumbass at that moment, and could stumble into a life or death situation without being aware of it. The more freedom people have to take the law into their hands, the more mistakes will be made. Congratulations.
    Sorry, the first person to bring up Hitler in any thread not about WW2 or Nazi'ism itself, automatically loses and is ignored by everyone.

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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    I'm sorry, but doing 'shrooms does not justify breaking into someone's home and attacking them, as this young man did. When you do stupid crap like this, you may be killed, end of story.

    Nor is the aggrieved homeowner obligated to make sure that you are
    1. Not intoxicated
    2. not mentally ill
    3. not off your meds
    4. otherwise not in your right mind
    ...nor is he obligated to wait until some member of his family is actually injured by you. You break and enter, you are very reasonably assumed to be a criminal threat. In my state, if you break and enter you are legally shootable and IMO your absence from society will not be missed greatly.

    1. Don't break into houses.
    2. Don't do shrooms, or if you're going to lock yourself in at home.

    ...and you won't get your butt shot off.

    End of story.


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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm sorry, but doing 'shrooms does not justify breaking into someone's home and attacking them
    The article says the man shot the teen and then the teen attacked.

    The teen did not assault the homeowner first, and no braking into the building is not what I'm talking about.

    See that's why I question the call. Someone brakes in and is NOT aggressive at all, I might observe the situation more before going all Rambo. I would have the right, but from the way this sounds I don't think I would let my emotions get the better of me and start squeezing the trigger.

    Maybe this is where my pro-life side shows in an unrelated topic, but if a trespasser is not aggressive, I'm probably going to stand in the hall way (blocking the bedroom, but I don't know the layout of the homeowners in the article) with my gun at the ready and yes I would call the cops and wait unless attacked. Even if then directly attacked, if I don't think he has a weapon I might still not fire, opting for a quick take-down instead.

    Lethal force is authorized, but from the limited information given here I might have used my discretion for less force.

    In any event, this story serves as an example of how gluttony is a deadly sin.
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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The article says the man shot the teen and then the teen attacked.
    Possibly I misunderstood that part. I still consider B&E to be sufficient cause to shoot, since you don't know the perps intentions. He may have a concealed weapon, he may attempt to get your gun, he may not be alone.



    See that's why I question the call. Someone brakes in and is NOT aggressive at all, I might observe the situation more before going all Rambo. I would have the right, but from the way this sounds I don't think I would let my emotions get the better of me and start squeezing the trigger.

    If it is your house, it is your call. I give this man the benefit of the doubt; it is his house and family that were potentially at risk, and I wasn't there when it happened. If you're willing to risk yourself for the sake of someone who breaks into your home, well then God be with you.

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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaya'08
    To think some people here are calling for these things to be legalized...personally im sickened by the thought
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    What "things"?
    The retards who want drugs legalized.
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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    The retards who want drugs legalized.
    The prohibition of drugs isn't working.
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    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post

    If the kid thought he was in his own home then I doubt the gun wielding home owner was in much danger. All we have here is another example of how misunderstandings become tragedies when firearms are involved.




    So the homeowner should be a mind reader? Seriously, do you people think before you bring forth this nonensical argument?


    What if he wasn't some stupid kid, and instead was a home invader who was thier to rape, steal, maim, and kill?


    How would the home owner know.


    And this "harmless kid" bit the homeowner as he was in a drug induced rage. Attacking the homeowner as "gun weilding" is weak, and ignorant.
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    Re: Teen shot to death during home invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Hitler was trying to "cleanse the gene pool".

    GODWIN FAIL

    This guy had plenty of time to call the police,

    When the facts don't fit, Will likes to make things up like above.

    but he decided he didn't need the police because he had a gun.
    Once upon a time....

    He was untrained, inexperienced in the behavior of home intruders, and knew nothing except how to pull a trigger.

    What next? Are you going to make up that he had a machine gun and had blue eyes? You speculate and make it up as you go along. Its pathetic.


    Do you ever get drunk? You yourself are a dumbass at that moment, and could stumble into a life or death situation without being aware of it. The more freedom people have to take the law into their hands, the more mistakes will be made. Congratulations.


    So much for personal responsibility, huh?
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