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    Re: Venezuela: 'Freedom of expression must be limited'

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    Venezuela elects a Socialist President who has every intention of remaining in power until the day he dies.

    USA elect a Socialist President who has every intention......................................... .................................................?
    I don't think that is a very fair comparison. Obama has not tried to impede the free speech of Americans nor has he made any indication that he will try and eliminate Presidential term limits should he win a second term. Extreme leftists were also making these claims about Bush, saying he would use the War on Terror to remain in office after the end of his second term.

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    Re: Venezuela: 'Freedom of expression must be limited'

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    For a few weeks after the election, I was concerned that the laws might be changed to allow Obama to run for more than two terms, and I do believe the the idea was put forward by one Congressman.
    Radical legislation like that gets introduced every year, but nobody takes those bills seriously and they never make it to the floor for a vote. Such was the case with this bill.

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    Re: Venezuela: 'Freedom of expression must be limited'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I could not disagree more. It's bad enough that there are people born here put some other country of continent in front of America when they talk about themselves. What am I talking about you say? People that call themselves Mexican Americans, African Americans. Italian Americans and so on.
    And yet, most of these are natural born US citizens. I've never heard Governor Schwarzenegger refer to himself as "Austrian-American".

    I agree with you about the hyphenated Americans, I think Theodore Roosevelt said it best. There is not room in America for people who are not Americans first, foremost, and only. On the other hand, it would appear that frequently the best Americans are men and women whose American citizenship had to be earned. They have demonstrated their patriotism more effectively than any nativist who incessantly bleats over where someone may or may not have been born.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    As far as Arnold Schwarzenegger is concerned he is as bad an example as you could come up with in this case. He is no more qualified that the current Amateur in Chief. I don't question his loyalty just his effectiveness.
    And in that case, considering the disastrous start that this President is off to and the abject failure of the previous President-- both born as American citizens-- you should have no objection to changing the law to allow Governor Schwarzenegger to become President. If, as you imply, his heart is in the right place he could not possibly be any worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The only Constitutional Amendment we could use is one that requires that you prove with a real Certified document the you were born here, not some useless BS certificate of live birth that means nothing.
    Regardless of the fact that the State of Hawai'i has verified the validity of his birth certificate and his birthplace in Honolulu, President Obama is a native-born American citizen by virtue of the fact that his mother is, and has always been, an American citizen. You might recall that this is the same reason that Senator McCain, being born in Panama, is also an American citizen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    By the way there is still talk of allowing more than two terms, which is as good an amendment as most of the first 10. Hopefully Obama will only have one. With his poll numbers headed for the toilet where Nasty Piglousy's dwell there is still reason for hope the country will survive,
    You do realize that your usage of childish nicknames for politicians you dislike makes all of your arguments less credible, don't you? Speaker Pelosi's record of abominable statements and self-serving political maneuvers do far more to damage her credibility than your childish insults ever will.

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    Re: Venezuela: 'Freedom of expression must be limited'

    Chavez controls the courts
    No he doesn't.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Venezuela: 'Freedom of expression must be limited'

    Venezuela elected a socialist dictator. Who knew?

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    Re: Venezuela: 'Freedom of expression must be limited'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Venezuela elected a socialist dictator. Who knew?
    No one apparently. Dictators dont really bother fighting elections.

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