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Wait. You say the report by Bush's DOJ investigating itself would not be partisan? This is like letting Colonel Sanders watch over your chicken coup while you're away. The DOJ was obliterated under Gonzales' reign. The civil rights division was watered down and understaffed and was left in complete disarray. I'd be more likely to posit that the DOJ investigation of the DOJ is more likely to be biased and partisan than the congressional report.
Oh no, not this report. This report was written by career DOJ employees at both the Inspector General's office and the office of professional responsibility. My husband used to work with two guys who work in the Inspector General's office. All you have to do is read the report--very matter of fact. It's neither pro-Bush nor anti-Bush. Their conclusion: These are the facts and we recommend a criminal investigation.
Werent many of the career employees pushed out by Gonzales?
Yes, round and round in circles.See where I'm going?
July 31, 2009
WASHINGTON, DC – President Obama today nominated the following individuals as United States Attorneys:
• Daniel G. Bogden, District of Nevada
• Deborah K. Gilg, District of Nebraska
• Timothy J. Heaphy, Western District of Virginia
• Peter F. Neronha, District of Rhode Island
The White House - Press Office - President Obama Nominates Four U.S. Attorneys
I say again, this is a NON-STORY. It was a non-story then, and it's even more irrelevant now.
I'm sorry that so many of you now have such a deep and painful void in your lives, now that Bush isn't around to feed that seething hatred that's been the center of your existence for so many years, but drudging up phony scandals from the past isn't doing you any good.
It's time to let go... If you don't have the strength and willpower to do this on your own, I recommend you attend group counseling, or find the nearest mental health facility and seek their advice on how to get your life back together.
Hatred will destroy your life, and the lives of those around you.
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E-Mails Show Larger White House Role in Prosecutor Firings
File this under no WMD's or 'we knew it all along'. I mean who is really surprised by this. Of course Rove had a hand in the firings. It was shameful.
I had read somewhere that the 'replacement' attorneys came from Bob Jones university and other 'acceptable' law schools.
You have wide discretion to dismiss them, but you can't dismiss them b/c they won't politicize the justice dept. What Mr. Bush did was unprecedented. Sure, Pres' have replaced all at the beginning of the term, but what the Bush WH did, no that never happened before.
President Carter replaced U.S. Attorney David Marston at the request of Democratic Representative Joshua Eilberg. Marston had been investigating corruption charges against Eilberg and Daniel Flood, another Democratic Representative.[173] The probe continued after the attorney was replaced, however, and Eilberg lost his 1978 reelection bid. Eilberg was eventually sentenced to five years probation and a $10,000 fine,[173][174] and Flood was censured for bribery by 96th United States Congress.
And for about the 501st time, serving at the "pleasure of the President" is not a blank check to obstruct justice or violate the Hatch Act.
"Firing a U.S. Attorney in order to impede or obstruct a pending criminal case, or a pending criminal investigation, could constitute an obstruction of justice. (snip) If Mr. Iglesias or another prosecutor was fired in retaliation for failing to bring vote fraud cases that lacked a reasonable legal or factual basis, the firing could also violate the criminal Hatch Act prohibition on retaliation contained in 18 USC 606. (snip) To the extent a prosecutor was fired in order to bring in a more compliant individual to pursue politically advantageous cases, such misconduct could possibly violate the prohibitions on obstructing government proceedings contained in 18 USC 1505 and 18 USC 1512(c)(2)."
"Concerns about the apparently political nature of these firings are only heightened by the emerging allegations that some U.S. Attorneys who were retained by the Department - the so-called "loyal Bushies" - may have selectively prosecuted Democrats. Bringing the force of the federal criminal justice apparatus to bear on an individual based in any way on that person's political affiliation is a clear abuse of the prosecutorial function, and may well violate the person's civil rights.
"Evidence that such wrongdoing may have occurred includes a recent academic study finding that federal prosecutors during the Bush Administration have indicted Democratic officeholders far more frequently than their Republican counterparts. The study's authors found that of the 375 cases they identified, 10 involved independents, 67 involved Republicans, and 298 involved Democrats, and noted that local Democrats were seven times as likely as Republicans to be subject to criminal charges from the Department of Justice."
This coming from a poster who exudes hatred toward the current administration! Real credible, Grim. :rofl :rofl :rofl
Hate is such a strong word I hated his policies and genuinely felt he was in way over his head. Most of his policy choices seemed to have stemmed from Dick Cheney. However, I've seen genuine hatred of Obama from the time he announced he was running to the first day he took office. Yeah it was such a fake phony scandal that the 9 senior officials at the Justice Department all resigned. I guess they all just wanted to spend more time with their kids.I say again, this is a NON-STORY. It was a non-story then, and it's even more irrelevant now.
I'm sorry that so many of you now have such a deep and painful void in your lives, now that Bush isn't around to feed that seething hatred that's been the center of your existence for so many years, but drudging up phony scandals from the past isn't doing you any good.
It's time to let go... If you don't have the strength and willpower to do this on your own, I recommend you attend group counseling, or find the nearest mental health facility and seek their advice on how to get your life back together.
Hatred will destroy your life, and the lives of those around you.
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First Off hazel we did find WMDS this I know for a fact since I was one of the folks who were looking for them prior to the invasion and second guess what the White House can firer and hire fed. Prosc. this has been the norm for a very long time but if you want to have this Witch Hunt great lets bring in Mr. Clinton and discuss all the firings he did of Fed Prosc.
Way to be a HyproPartisian Hack:roll:
I say again, this is a NON-STORY. It was a non-story then, and it's even more irrelevant now.
I'm sorry that so many of you now have such a deep and painful void in your lives, now that Bush isn't around to feed that seething hatred that's been the center of your existence for so many years, but drudging up phony scandals from the past isn't doing you any good.
It's time to let go... If you don't have the strength and willpower to do this on your own, I recommend you attend group counseling, or find the nearest mental health facility and seek their advice on how to get your life back together.
Hate is such a strong word I hated his policies and genuinely felt he was in way over his head. Most of his policy choices seemed to have stemmed from Dick Cheney. However, I've seen genuine hatred of Obama from the time he announced he was running to the first day he took office. Yeah it was such a fake phony scandal that the 9 senior officials at the Justice Department all resigned. I guess they all just wanted to spend more time with their kids.
Yes, it's Obama who has experienced irrational hatred, while we saw none of that from the left over the past 8 years.
Have you read any of the following:
Against All Enemies - Richard Clarke
Your Government Failed You - Richard Clarke
Fiasco - Thomas Rickes
Life in the Emerald City - Rajiv Chandrasekaran
Hubris - Michael Isikoff
You know Bush/Cheney hatred is not limited to Democrats or Liberals alone, I think if you look around a bit you might just be surprised that quite a few Republicans and conservatives find him to be an incompetent fool who did more bad than good. I doubt few can name any tangible accomplishment, yet most can easily recognize his failings.
Yes, it's Obama who has experienced irrational hatred, while we saw none of that from the left over the past 8 years.
I work for the CIA. We found no weapons in Iraq. I shot JFK.
Please believe me.
Ok.. fine.. lets prosecute all of them..
We'll start chronologically... with Obama, his impeachment and them work back..
How does that work for ya'?
The problem here is decades of unconstitutional SCJ decisions and executive orders. The problem is systemic and by NO means can be considered singular or partisan.
All this pissin' across the isle, serves only a singular purpose of distraction while our Constitution is shredded by progressives from both sides.
so y'all keep pissin' at each other , cheering the pointing of dirty little fingers at the other side's indiscretions....
.... tyranny will be your just reward!
File this under no WMD's or 'we knew it all along'. I mean who is really surprised by this. Of course Rove had a hand in the firings. It was shameful.
You want to explain your opinion or are you just trolling?
Already did in a previous post.
Try and keep up.
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Why is this a story?
Federal prosecutors are appointed by the administration and serve at the presidents leisure. They can be fired by the president at any time, for any reason.
You Bush bashers on the left, just won't let things go... and it's pathetic.