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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaguy View Post
    Bankrupt?? The plan was a huge success. This money got a lot of credit flowing and money into Macro-economy. What about this program did you miss? The government set aside a finite amount of money for this program to get people to trade in older cars and gas guzzlers. with rebates so huge people jumped at the opportunity. with over 20k dealerships nationwide, it's easy to see how 1B dollars worth of incentives got used up pretty fast. If anything, the goverment underestimated the demand for new cars. Without this program, people wouldn't have been able to get the cars, get the credit flowing, keep people employed, help make the air you breathe cleaner.

    I would really suggest doing some research before commenting on things that not quite clear. It makes it look like your just spewing rhetoric from right wing sources.
    I missed nothing concerning this program. It is you, liberals, and Obama who have missed what this program is.

    Rebates....aka....tax breaks. Amazing what happens when you give people tax breaks isnt it? Demand for new cars? Your reading to far into this program. What you are seeing, is people able to stimulate the economy, WHEN THEY HAVE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS!!!!! A concept lost to the left.

    Now, lets see the lefties just cut all tax rates and decentives and unleash the enitre power of the American individual and you will see the economy accelerate out of the bog.

    "help make the air you breathe cleaner" OMG, spoken like a true nutter right there.

    The problem with this program, is that the government is in control of it. All they did is swap out the car manufacturers place at giving breaks. Its still nothing but a simple trade in program. You guys seem to think it is some new way of doing business, which is the real funny part.

    Funny thing is Obama doesnt realize he just practiced something called tax breaks.

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    Spin, spin, spin. I figured this would get spun so much as soon as I posted it, hence the sarcastic first post.

    Btw, the guy with the 10mpg car that you keep driving. Keep supporting them Muslims you care so much for in the Middle East. Doesn't bother me a bit.

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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post

    Spin, spin, spin. I figured this would get spun so much as soon as I posted it, hence the sarcastic first post.

    Btw, the guy with the 10mpg car that you keep driving. Keep supporting them Muslims you care so much for in the Middle East. Doesn't bother me a bit.
    Speaking of ....lol.

    You dont think your supporting the ME Muslims with your daily life? Take a look around your room and count the number of things which took oil to make it. That computer your typing on would be a good start.

    I will keep my Chevy Suburban as well. No need to trade in a perfectly running vehicle on the premise that I am killing the planet. That is just insane.

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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post

    Spin, spin, spin. I figured this would get spun so much as soon as I posted it, hence the sarcastic first post.

    Btw, the guy with the 10mpg car that you keep driving. Keep supporting them Muslims you care so much for in the Middle East. Doesn't bother me a bit.
    You mean Canadians, we get most of our oil from Canada.

    I don't mind supporting Canadians.
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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Propping up an inefficient industry because someone may need to look for a new job does not make economic sense.

    I think it is horrible for the government to create false growth in the economy and encourage more lending when it otherwise shouldn't happen. False growth creates another recession.
    The industry is being restructured to be more efficient. I would prefer propping them up, and keeping people employed as opposed to paying out more tax money for unemployment since these people do actually want to work. And this isn't false growth, ask the car dealers who have more money for payroll as well as profit. Now, they can order more cars which in turn will put even more people to work. Really, how hard is this?

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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    I missed nothing concerning this program. It is you, liberals, and Obama who have missed what this program is.

    Rebates....aka....tax breaks. Amazing what happens when you give people tax breaks isnt it? Demand for new cars? Your reading to far into this program. What you are seeing, is people able to stimulate the economy, WHEN THEY HAVE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS!!!!! A concept lost to the left.

    Now, lets see the lefties just cut all tax rates and decentives and unleash the enitre power of the American individual and you will see the economy accelerate out of the bog.

    "help make the air you breathe cleaner" OMG, spoken like a true nutter right there.

    The problem with this program, is that the government is in control of it. All they did is swap out the car manufacturers place at giving breaks. Its still nothing but a simple trade in program. You guys seem to think it is some new way of doing business, which is the real funny part.

    Funny thing is Obama doesnt realize he just practiced something called tax breaks.
    Okay. So since it is a liberal program, by virtue, it is wrong; is that what your saying? If so, that's not a very logical way of thinking. You are missing the macroeconomic impact of this program. If you haven't noticed, this country is in economic shambles. (thanks to the unregulated free market most of you conservatives love so much) As a result, we have to have government intervention to stop this economic meltdown. This isn't that hard.

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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post

    I will keep my Chevy Suburban as well. No need to trade in a perfectly running vehicle on the premise that I am killing the planet. That is just insane.
    I know, becuase there are so many other planets to choose from that support human life that you can live on.

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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaguy View Post
    Okay. So since it is a liberal program, by virtue, it is wrong; is that what your saying?
    Nope, that is not what I am saying. I am saying that the government is simply taking the place of the car manufactureres and handing out rebates to people, only instead of using private funds from the car manufacturerer, they are handing out tax dollars instead.

    Its a simple trade-in scheme. Only the entity providing the funds is the US Taxpayer.

    If so, that's not a very logical way of thinking. You are missing the macroeconomic impact of this program. If you haven't noticed, this country is in economic shambles. (thanks to the unregulated free market most of you conservatives love so much) As a result, we have to have government intervention to stop this economic meltdown. This isn't that hard.
    The country is in economic shambles, directly due to the very activity of teh federal government inside the markets. We dont have an unregulated free market. This nation is overly regulated.

    Who says we have to have government intervention to stop an economic meltdown?

    If you want to see economic booms, have the government drop tax rates and drop some regulation inside the markets, so people wont ship money offshore or hide it in tax shelters. What Obama did with Cash For Clunkers is prove that the economic engine of America works best when people have the tax breaks necessary to be able to go out and buy things. He and the left will never admit this, b/c it doesnt enpower the federal government. A rebate is nothing but a tax break, w/o slashing tax rates.

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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaguy View Post
    I know, becuase there are so many other planets to choose from that support human life that you can live on.
    The entire premise of "we are killing Planet Earth" doesnt work with me.

    Its a waste of energy on your part. Plus, none of the enviro-freaks are capable of living in a cave without electricity, where carbon footprints are ZERO, so its kind of pointless to try and come down on the side of me being against nature.

    I spend more time in nature then most lefties on this planet as a hunter and outdoorsman, while the lefty is sitting in some high rise condo in the middle of a big city, who thinks Central Park is the great outdoors and seing some sparrows or purple martins are "wildlife".

    Or better yet, is filming himself in the wild among bears like they are giant pets, just before one eats him alive.
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    Re: Govt to suspend Cash for Clunkers program

    I drive a 95 Mercury Cougar. I have had that car for 10 years now. Its paid for.

    It makes no sense for me, a person lving within the constraints of a budget, to turn in a car that is currently running fine and gets 16-20mpg, to end up with a brand new car that will likely cost me $250+ a month, plus gasoline even if that car gets 30+ mpg. Not to mention the higher insurance premium I'll have to pay to keep a low deductible on a brand new car because the loan provider will dictate I keep a low deductible, and because I live in NC I would have to pay a high property tax on a brand new vehicle each year for plate renewal, and an emissions test each year for any car '98 and newer. I'm not going to make up the difference by a long shot.

    I need to stimulate, and take care of my own bank account first, rather than worry about the miniscule environmental imprint my car might be having on the environment, or some union workers job in Detroit.
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