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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    An embargo is meant to make them suffer. To say that Israel was nice to Gaza in any capacity is ludicrous. They were just at war, for God's sake.

    This is a good development, though. At least now they can rebuid somewhat.
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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

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    Too little too late. The ghetto of Gaza is a travesty supported by Western dollars. I am ashamed to come from a country whose government openly supports this kind of internment-camp treatment of people in the 21st century.
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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    An embargo is meant to make them suffer. To say that Israel was nice to Gaza in any capacity is ludicrous. They were just at war, for God's sake.
    You can show humanitarian acts even during a war.
    There is absolutely no reason for a nation not to do its best to prevent casualties of innocents from the other side.
    I support every act Israel takes to help make the life of the Palestinians easier, even if just by a bit, but as much as possible without risking its own people's security.
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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    I don't think Israel acted particularly correct in the interests of huminatarianism whilst at with Gaza. Numerous reports of prevantable civilian deaths and what-not. Destruction of buildings with nothing inside.
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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    I don't think Israel acted particularly correct in the interests of huminatarianism whilst at with Gaza. Numerous reports of prevantable civilian deaths and what-not. Destruction of buildings with nothing inside.
    There were some mistakes that could have been prevented with a better communication between the army branches.
    All of the incidents were mentioned in the IDF report on the operation.
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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    I don't think Israel acted particularly correct in the interests of huminatarianism whilst at with Gaza. Numerous reports of prevantable civilian deaths and what-not. Destruction of buildings with nothing inside.
    They could not bomb the civilian areas in the first place, for example.
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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They could not bomb the civilian areas in the first place, for example.
    The same 'civilian areas' that Hamas have launched their rockets from, completely disregarding the fact that innocents who have nothing to do with terror live their life in those areas, and perhaps even using it to prevent an Israeli attack on the launchers. (And sometimes they have indeed succeeded in doing so, as Israel chose not to attack many launch pods because of the risk to the Palestinian civilians in the area.)

    This is the problem with counter-terrorism, it's a fight against civilians who chose to arm themselves up and attack civilians thinking it'll promote their political cause.
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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    Israel has stated numerous times that the restrictions on the crossing points would be all but removed if IDF Cpl. Gilad Shalit were set free. Cpl. Shalit has been held in Hamas captivity since 2006.

    Seems to me that Hamas values holding Cpl. Shalit much more than it values open crossing points. I have no idea why the people of Gaza allow such singular Hamas stupidity and stubbornness to endure for years at their collective expense. In light of this, one can only assume then that Hamas actually prefers restricted crossing points for the political propaganda value.

    It's fairly simple. Release Cpl. Shalit and the bulk of the restrictions at the crossing points will be removed. Until this release transpires, the crossing point status-quo will remain in place.

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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    An embargo is meant to make them suffer. To say that Israel was nice to Gaza in any capacity is ludicrous. They were just at war, for God's sake.
    The point is the same as it has always been. If the Palestinians stop lobbing rockets into Israel, and stop trying to murder innocent civilians, Israel will back off of their hard-line stance, giving the best chance for peace to be achieved in the region.

    The problem is, Hamas isn't doing this because they're interested in peace, just as the NY Times article points several times.


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    Re: Israel to allow cement into Gaza

    Hamas will take advantage of the lull to launch and attack and thing will be back where they were.

    Peaceful relations between Israel and the PA are counter productive for Hamas and they will never allow it to go that far.
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