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    US says Russia could join NATO

    The Obama administration said Tuesday it is not ruling out the possibility of Russian membership in NATO.

    Assistant Secretary of State Philip Gordon told U.S. lawmakers that the United States would consider Russian membership in the military alliance that was founded to protect Europe from Soviet aggression.

    Gordon said NATO's doors should be open to democracies in Europe. He added that "if Russia meets the criteria and can contribute to common security, and there is a consensus in the alliance, it shouldn't be excluded."

    NATO is often vilified in Russia, which has objected to the alliance's expansion to include countries on its border.

    But the Obama administration is seeking better relations and says it wants to convince Moscow that NATO is no longer a threat.
    US says Russia could join NATO - Hürriyet Daily News and Economic Review

    The Obama administration is apparently "not ruling out the possibility of Russia joining NATO". I have to admit, im not of complete opposition to Obama and what he is doing, but this has to be the stupidiest thing an American administration has said for years. Russia has spent its entire modern existence controlling, fighting, and terrifying NATO and all that it stands for. And yet, the Obama administration "is not ruling out the possibility" of Russia joining its worst ever enemy; NATO. Are these people in fantasy land?

    EDIT: Im stunned they consider Russia a Democracy also.
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    What did Joe Biden say now?
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    US says Russia could join NATO - Hürriyet Daily News and Economic Review

    The Obama administration is apparently "not ruling out the possibility of Russia joining NATO". I have to admit, im not of complete opposition to Obama and what he is doing, but this has to be the stupidiest thing an American administration has said for years. Russia has spent its entire modern existence controlling, fighting, and terrifying NATO and all that it stands for. And yet, the Obama administration "is not ruling out the possibility" of Russia joining its worst ever enemy; NATO. Are these people in fantasy land?

    EDIT: Im stunned they consider Russia a Democracy also.

    The Bobo Administartion thinks that Iran and Venezuela are democratcies. So why not Russia? Next thing we will hear the bobo crew say China and North Korea are democraties. It wouldn't surprise me.
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    well, Obama hasn't embarrassed himself as many times as Bush did in the same amount of time as president. Russia doesn't want to join NATO, so it's out of the question.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    well, Obama hasn't embarrassed himself as many times as Bush did in the same amount of time as president. Russia doesn't want to join NATO, so it's out of the question.
    Bobo is making Bush(43) look like an absolute genus. I did not think it possible but I miss the Bush(43).
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    <sigh> Talks of Russia joining NATO have existed since the Soviet Union broke up, this is nothing new. The basic theory has always been to question what direction Russia will go, will they address themselves as a European state, or will they address themselves as something unique, or Eastern. The statement itself is meant as question to Russia to answer in which direction Russia wishes to take. Again, this is nothing new. The only thing you need to read into this is the statement to Russia that Ukraine joining NATO is not to be seen as a threat.




    Putin says Russia could join NATO - March 2000
    Acting President Vladimir Putin set off a wave of criticism Sunday from his rivals in the race for March 26 presidential elections by telling a British television network that Russia could join NATO.
    SHOULD RUSSIA JOIN NATO? - Prof. Yuriy DAVYDOV,
    NATO Research Fellow,

    Let Russia join NATO - LA Times August 2006

    Why a Democratic Russia Should Join NATO - Carnegie Endowment - July 2006
    Last edited by sam_w; 07-30-09 at 08:29 AM.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    I thought you need to be a democracy in order to join NATO.
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I thought you need to be a democracy in order to join NATO.
    You are correct, which is in part one of the reasons NATO has engaged Russia on this. In order for Russia to be able to enter into serious negotiations there would have to be fundamental changes made obviously, changes that would alleviate a lot of the anxiety Europe has as to Russia's future direction. The theory here is that by engaging Russia, drawing them into a mutual beneficial/integrated/dependent relationship, Russia would no longer be a threat but rather an ally. Again it goes back to the question of which role Russia wishes to seek for itself. If it determines itself to be a European state, then it is obvious for Russia to join NATO.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    The Presidents Bush(41) and Clinton along with the Democrat controlled Congress deserve all the blame for the current state of bad relations between the United States and Russia.

    If either Bush(41) and/or Clinton had bushed for the spending of between $300 and $500 billion to rebuild Russia and support their budding democracy, as Mr. Henry Kissinger had recommended, we would have a partner now vice an adversary.

    Penny wise and pound foolish. The Democrat control Congress wanted money, the so called "Peace Dividend" for their pet projects. I sure wish these Congress Critters had been able to understand that peace was its own reward. That money could have been better spent.
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    The Presidents Bush(41) and Clinton along with the Democrat controlled Congress deserve all the blame for the current state of bad relations between the United States and Russia.

    If either Bush(41) and/or Clinton had bushed for the spending of between $300 and $500 billion to rebuild Russia and support their budding democracy, as Mr. Henry Kissinger had recommended, we would have a partner now vice an adversary.

    Penny wise and pound foolish. The Democrat control Congress wanted money, the so called "Peace Dividend" for their pet projects. I sure wish these Congress Critters had been able to understand that peace was its own reward. That money could have been better spent.
    Or we'd have an enemy that we funded to create.
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