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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    If only we had Kissenger back.


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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    US says Russia could join NATO - Hürriyet Daily News and Economic Review

    The Obama administration is apparently "not ruling out the possibility of Russia joining NATO". I have to admit, im not of complete opposition to Obama and what he is doing, but this has to be the stupidiest thing an American administration has said for years. Russia has spent its entire modern existence controlling, fighting, and terrifying NATO and all that it stands for. And yet, the Obama administration "is not ruling out the possibility" of Russia joining its worst ever enemy; NATO. Are these people in fantasy land?

    EDIT: Im stunned they consider Russia a Democracy also.
    Russia will never join NATO. I believe Obama is just doing this for a good show of relations.
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    If only we had Kissenger back.
    It is a kind of depressing that we can't... I wouldn't know anybody qualified to deal with Russia besides him.
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Liberals are as naive as the days is long if they want to celebrate this monumental mistake. Obama is a fool if he allows any potential enemy into NATO.
    Why you Ask? Simple dummy. What better way to discover an opponents vulnerabilities than from the inside? Double Duh!
    Their is and old Arab adage that says: "Keep your friends close - hold your enemies closer". But there are some logical limits to this unless your really stupid and naive in international relations and history. Obama is king in all areas involving his Amateurism which so far is everythiing. Get a grip Russia is not now nor will they ever be any friend to the west. I'm not talking about the average citizens of Russia. I'm talking about the ruling communist class and a staunch enemy of everything in the west Puttin, the real leader of Russia.
    Enter into treaties if you must but do as President Reagan said "Trust, but Verify". NATO Is not a place for Russian soldiers to go looking around.
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Bobo is making Bush(43) look like an absolute genus. I did not think it possible but I miss the Bush(43).
    You have to be joking. I dislike most politicians, but Obama hasn't screwed up as badly as Bush did during his first half a yearish.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    If only we had Kissenger back.
    Why? What made Kissenger so great(serious response, please)?

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    Why? What made Kissenger so great(serious response, please)?
    Because he, like Reagan, is considered a Great Man of the Republican party, despite the fact he is responsible for the genocide of innocent civilians in Cambodia. and elsewhere. Anyhow, I don't recall that Kissinger had any breakthrough moments with the USSR.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    Why? What made Kissenger so great(serious response, please)?
    The quoted conversation with Putin demonstrates that he has an ability to deal with Putin as a professional with a professional, as an example. More of his thoughts on Russia can be googled to see that he has a professional and realistic, connected with reality approach. On other hand we have totally childish, uninformed and pardon my French totally moronic statements of the 99% majority jumping into this tread, so far making WillRockwell look like a genius in comparison. This overwhelming majority exactly represents the ‘’expertise’’ of Albright, Condi and Hillary - childish, uninformed, totally disconnected from reality and totally moronic – it gives a feeling like there has been some devilish spell put on the State Department after the Kissinger era. He does not even have to be great, everything we conceive we conceive in comparison. And there can be no comparison here.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    he may not speak English, like I don't, but he understands it better than you do.

    Hillary says that putin does not have a soul. He is a KGB, so he does not have a soul. It is a negative contemptuous points made against Putin. He is so bad that he does not have a soul. (Thus Bush seeking for the soul is stupid). Her speech is no different from Scarecrow Akhbar’s remarks.

    Putin answers shortly and makes the audience laugh at the stupidity of Hillary. He says first of all a Politician has to have brain (which means that Hillary does not have brain) to say such a negative contemptuous and totally meaningless crap. Remember that Hillary now is a major player against Putin. The KGB upbringing of Putin can be pretty much characterizes by Henry Kissinger. Kissinger asked Putin – what was his background. Putin intending to shock Kissinger answers – KGB, as it is commonly associated with ruthless persecution of dissidents, which can be only compared with persecution of birthers on DP.
    - What Division?
    – Intelligence.
    – Inside of the USSR or outside?
    – Outside.
    – Well, all decent people started their carrier in intelligence, including myself, - resumes Kissinger.

    dealing with Putin Obama and Hilary cannot use the same “arguments” as ones used against birthers here. The failure of CIA would start with a disrespect of professional qualities of the KGB counter-intelligence division, such a disrespect would be very unprofessional. The same is with military rivals. Obama and Hillary cannot even combined put up anything against Putin’s intelligence. They are highly unprofessional.
    Hillary made a joke. Perhaps your unfamiliarity with the language did not allow you to comprehend that. Also, she was a candidate then, not Secretary of State.
    Nevertheless, only a fool would claim that Hillary Clinton "doesn't have a brain".
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    Why? What made Kissenger so great(serious response, please)?

    He was a foriegn policy genius. Was instrumental in Nixons opening of China
    diffusing tensions and turning a Communist enemy into a Buffer against Soviet influence in the Pacific and Asia.


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