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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    The Obama administration said Tuesday it is not ruling out the possibility of Russian membership in NATO.
    Meh.
    Russia will not make it through the requirements needed to join NATO


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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Or we'd have an enemy that we funded to create.

    Sort of like Japan, Germany and Italy?
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    If the Right could peer into the future, they might see the advantage of having Russia in our side if China decides it needs more "room".

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Nothing better then a Nato with the Nation that Nato was meant to defend again


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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Sort of like Japan, Germany and Italy?
    Japan, Germany and Italy never had a constant history of competition and cold feelings between the two. Yes, each country has definetly had its fair share of hostility towards the US in the past, but Russia has had a long, constant, never dying fear, "brotherly competition" and hatred towards the US, its sphere of influence that it insists it remains under Russia (despite that rehtoric being old school USSR) and acting like its still a big world player and superpower even when its not, and the fact that old anti-US ex-soviet rehtoric has still carried into Russia's democracy days prooves to me the US can help build Russia all it wants but its evident that opposition to US rule will never die, and that need to keep there "sphere of influence". So yes, i think we could have waved all the money in the world in there faces, wouldnt change the fact they have nukes and they still view NATO and the US as an imminent threat. This whole opposition to the west is something Russia hasnt let go since its Soviet-democratic transition, not because we didnt give them all the money they wanted, but because the Russians are too self righteous and proud to bow down to America.
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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Nothing better then a Nato with the Nation that Nato was meant to defend again
    Think before you type, it makes you look smarter. the "Nation that Nato was meant to defend again" was the USSR, which no longer exists.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO

    Obama is just spouting empty rhetoric to give the feeling of being inclusive. I doubt he actually expects Russia to agree, he just trying to craft a friendlier image of American foreign policy.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Russia has had a long, constant, never dying fear, "brotherly competition" and hatred towards the US, .
    That's just not true. We were allies in WW2, and Russia sold Alaska to the US for 100 pounds of seal meat (something like that). In fact, Russia and the US have NEVER been enemies. The cold war was a conflict between the US and USSR (Correct me if I'm wrong)

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Nothing better then a Nato with the Nation that Nato was meant to defend again
    Indeed, NATO was created to counter the USSR. With the fall of the USSR countering Russia became the sole purpose of the existence of NATO. Now if Russia joins NATO -------- I cannot even continue …. I have to stop laughing…


    Does Obama have to be a total moron? How can one be so clueless?

    I don’t even know how to comment seriously on such moronic actions/announcements of the present administration on the geopolitical stage.

    Russia is rebuilding itself from the devastation inflicted by the rule of democracy in 1990s. In the very nearest future it sees itself to be a lot stronger than NATO. Thus it would be up to Russia to tell NATO, – ‘Reject democracy and you can join us.’

    It is like the present situation with Ukraine, - the US supports the democracy in Ukraine and drugs it to NATO. The Ukrainian regime propped by the US has 5% approval rating among Ukrainians, while the majority of Ukrainians approve Putin.

    It is like the present situation with Georgia, the US supports the democracy in Georgia and drugs it to NATO, rearming the Georgian military destroyed by the Russian Army #58. The Russian Army #58 lost 75 people. Russia meanwhile rearms and reorganize Army #12 so the human loses would not be so high the next time.


    It is like the present situation with Lithuania, to inspire Lithuanians in their hostile attitude towards Russia NATO sends 3 (!) Dutch fighters to Lithuania to scare Russia from the borders of Lithuania. Russia sells a whole bunch of fighters to India and makes join R&D projects. The US sends fighters to simulate a fight. Indians pilots trained by Russians in Russian fighters beat the US fighters. The US fighters come back and cry that they need F-22 to beat Russians.

    And so the show is going on and on, making it to be fun to watch.


    Obama’s administration is totally disconnected from realities at home and it is even more disconnected from the realities on the geopolitical stage and it has no clue about Russia.

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    Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    never dying fear, "brotherly competition" and hatred towards the US

    Can you provide any references or links except for BBC? You fear and hatred towards Russia is not a proof of Russian fear and hatred towards the US.


    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    This whole opposition to the west is something Russia hasnt let go since its Soviet-democratic transition, not because we didnt give them all the money they wanted, but because the Russians are too self righteous and proud to bow down to America.

    That also used to be the main feature of Americans, - not to bow to anybody. Even if now we see the mass bowing to Obama, such a spirit has not been destroyed completely in the US. Being proud of it I see no reason not to respect the same in Russians.

    And you have not noticed the transition from democracy but not towards democracy in Russia. Despising democracy I see no reason not to respect the same in Russians.

    I know the idea of giving a full respect to your rival is new to you and absolutely absent in Obama, but you wouldn’t go too far with Russia until you get it.
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