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US says Russia could join NATO

Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

The Bobo Administartion thinks that Iran and Venezuela are democratcies. So why not Russia? Next thing we will hear the bobo crew say China and North Korea are democraties. It wouldn't surprise me.

Technically, to be a democracy all you need to do is elect your main politicians by popular vote. So Iran and Venezuela are democracies. Not open, clean and honest ones (well, Venezuela was), but still democracies. China only elects its town councils, and North Korea doesn't actually vote.

Just because a country's electoral process doesn't mirror ours does not mean it is not a democracy.
 
the US does not like Russia s o why will they join NATO? no good will come from this.

Unless you are trying to break NATO. By accepting the enemy of an organization that is designed to defend against that enemy, that organization has no purpose and therefore is to be disbanded. How much does NATO cost the US annually?
 
Are you Russian?

Let me make it clear. First of all I am an American. I do not hold any other citizenship. And I am proud to be an American.
 
Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

Technically, to be a democracy all you need to do is elect your main politicians by popular vote. So Iran and Venezuela are democracies. Not open, clean and honest ones (well, Venezuela was), but still democracies. China only elects its town councils, and North Korea doesn't actually vote.

Just because a country's electoral process doesn't mirror ours does not mean it is not a democracy.

Actually, the electoral process isnt the only thing that defines a Democracy. Hence North Korea being a Dictatorship, Iran being a Theocracy and Russia being a democracy in the sense its more or less there but it still has a long way to go.


Let me make it clear. First of all I am an American. I do not hold any other citizenship. And I am proud to be an American.

I know your American, i would never consider you anything else other than American. But what i was asking was if your family are decendants of people from Russia. Just out of concern because you have some knowledge on the Russian dialect.
 
Unless you are trying to break NATO. By accepting the enemy of an organization that is designed to defend against that enemy, that organization has no purpose and therefore is to be disbanded. How much does NATO cost the US annually?

It was desinged against the USSR aka expansionist communist Russia not todays "democratic" (or should i say non-communist?) Russia. Its precisely this attitude that has made Russia a staunch enemy of NATO in the first place.
 
Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

I know your American, i would never consider you anything else other than American. But what i was asking was if your family are decendants of people from Russia. Just out of concern because you have some knowledge on the Russian dialect.

I was born and mostly educated in the USSR. Russian in my native language.
 
Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

Think before you type, it makes you look smarter. the "Nation that Nato was meant to defend again" was the USSR, which no longer exists.

Hey will you want to go and recheck your facta bout NATO mission and who they are to defend against and then come back and eat crow.:doh
 
US says Russia could join NATO - Hürriyet Daily News and Economic Review

The Obama administration is apparently "not ruling out the possibility of Russia joining NATO". I have to admit, im not of complete opposition to Obama and what he is doing, but this has to be the stupidiest thing an American administration has said for years. Russia has spent its entire modern existence controlling, fighting, and terrifying NATO and all that it stands for. And yet, the Obama administration "is not ruling out the possibility" of Russia joining its worst ever enemy; NATO. Are these people in fantasy land?

EDIT: Im stunned they consider Russia a Democracy also.

Actually the Bushnyk administration said that the Boilshevyks coud join NATO so that is not breaking news.
 
Actually the Bushnyk administration said that the Boilshevyks coud join NATO so that is not breaking news.

No that is not what Mr. Bush said he said that Russia could do Joint Military Excercise's with NATO Force get the fact straight please.
 
No that is not what Mr. Bush said he said that Russia could do Joint Military Excercise's with NATO Force get the fact straight please.

My facts are cmpletely staright since the Bush administration said that they would not oppose Russia entering NATO. I did not say that the Bush administration put the Boilsheviks up for membership and there were no time frames given. I follow the NATO xpansion very carefully since my famly comes from a country that may be joining NATO but the evil barbaric empire aka Russia is opposed to that.

When you compare the Bush and the Obama admnistration's position on Russia joining NATA there isn't a nano space between the two.
 
No that is not what Mr. Bush said he said that Russia could do Joint Military Excercise's with NATO Force get the fact straight please.

Many countries have in the past and currently Joint Military Excercise's with NATO and the fact that Russia was invited o that does not preclude the fact that the Bush administration said that Russia could join NATO,just as the Obama administartion did.
 
Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

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I know your American, i would never consider you anything else other than American. But what i was asking was if your family are decendants of people from Russia. Just out of concern because you have some knowledge on the Russian dialect.

I was born and mostly educated in the USSR. Russian in my native language.
I was born and mostly educated in the USSR. Russian in my native language.

Since when did Russian become a dialect ? It's one of the Slavic languages. A dialect would be such as a form of Russian spoken in the Far East of Siberia.
 
No that is not what Mr. Bush said he said that Russia could do Joint Military Excercise's with NATO Force get the fact straight please.

fACTS = http://www.twq.com/02winter/baker.pdf

jAMES baker III proposed that Russia should jpn and I have it somewhere that Bush backed that idea. I may dig it up yet. I was not noting that fact to criticize Bush since telling Russia that they can join puts the Ruskies on the defensive.
 
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Originally Posted by kaya'08

I know your American, i would never consider you anything else other than American. But what i was asking was if your family are decendants of people from Russia. Just out of concern because you have some knowledge on the Russian dialect.

I was born and mostly educated in the USSR. Russian in my native language.

Since when did Russian become a dialect ? It's one of the Slavic languages. A dialect would be such as a form of Russian spoken in the Far East of Siberia.

Not necessarily. Moscowites CHOs, Novgorodians Os, Ukrainians think they speak Ukrainian, and so allthe mentioned do in the Far East of Siberia where non-Slavic natives of the Far East of Siberia learn and speak their own Russian. Russia is a Federation, the Russian Federation.

Your rant over kaya’s explicitly polite expression only meant to outline his intention not to offend me or my feelings and nothing more is as shallow as your attempt to bring Bush in Obama’s affair with Russia. Bush had his failures. They are long gone now. Russia faces Obama, not Bush. And, no, Putin did his traditional jokes at Bush, but it never happened at Bush’s insistence. Obama insisted on Putin to make fun of him. And Obama did not even get a grip on the reality.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...agrees-arms-cuts-afghan-transit-russia-2.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...s-afghan-transit-russia-3.html#post1058126596

You shouldn’t post when you are intoxicated, stoned.

It is just a friendly advice.
 
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I cant speak a lick.

Having experience of translating Monkeye I think I would be able to translate Oxymoronian any time. I understand what you are saying though it is Brooklyn/Oxymoronian and not English, not even American English.
 
Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

Actually, the electoral process isnt the only thing that defines a Democracy.

Uh, yeah it is. The real question is how representative it actually is.

Hence North Korea being a Dictatorship, Iran being a Theocracy and Russia being a democracy in the sense its more or less there but it still has a long way to go.

Hence why I discussed how honest and clean it is. And you can be a theocratic democracy. People vote for theocratic ideas to rule.

"Just because a country's electoral process doesn't mirror ours does not mean it is not a democracy."
 
Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

Not necessarily. Moscowites CHOs, Novgorodians Os, Ukrainians think they speak Ukrainian, and so allthe mentioned do in the Far East of Siberia where non-Slavic natives of the Far East of Siberia learn and speak their own Russian. Russia is a Federation, the Russian Federation.

Your rant over kaya’s explicitly polite expression only meant to outline his intention not to offend me or my feelings and nothing more is as shallow as your attempt to bring Bush in Obama’s affair with Russia. Bush had his failures. They are long gone now. Russia faces Obama, not Bush. And, no, Putin did his traditional jokes at Bush, but it never happened at Bush’s insistence. Obama insisted on Putin to make fun of him. And Obama did not even get a grip on the reality.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...agrees-arms-cuts-afghan-transit-russia-2.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...s-afghan-transit-russia-3.html#post1058126596

You shouldn’t post when you are intoxicated, stoned.

It is just a friendly advice.

Exactly what part of the definition of dialect are you either not understanding or arepurposely swisting ? Russian is not a dilect is is one of the three Eastern Slavic languages along with the first - Ukrainian and the almost dead Belorus-ian. A dilaect is a variation within a language and an example would be the Hutsul or Boyko dialects spoken in the Southern part of Western Ukraine.

You actually made my case in that there is indeed a form or verypossiblr several forms of the Russian dialect soken in the Far East and those dilaects are yes as I alluded to and you agreed Russian influenced with no Slavic indigenous languages of the captive tribes.

You apparently are the one who is in need of advice since you must have a severe dificiency or lack the desire to debate and have used an insult tactict by falsely claiming that someone else was enibriated or "stoned".

Please behave in a civil manner when posting.
 
Re: US says Russia could join NATO (rofl)

Uh, yeah it is. The real question is how representative it actually is.

So your telling me than if, for example, the United Kingdom had no freedom of speech and very little rights and space without government intervention in there private life (almost non-existant civil liberties), yet we could vote any party we want to rule our nation, that makes us a Democracy? Hardly. Perhaps we could change the fate of the nation by electing the right people, but at that point in time, we are not a Democracy. You may define a Democracy differently, but i dont just define it by its electoral process alone.
 
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