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    No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama
    President Barack Obama said Wednesday there will be no vote on his proposed reforms of the US healthcare system before autumn, a setback that is costing him more political capital with each passing day.

    "This bill, even in the best-case scenario, will not be signed -- we won't even vote on it probably until the end of September or the middle of October," he said in a session here to muster public support for the reforms.
    Looks like the deal cut with the Blue Dogs might not be all that helpful--the health care reform proposals are still hemorrhaging popularity in and out of Congress.

    Jim DeMint might end up calling it exactly....this bill is turning into Dear Leader's Waterloo.

    (one can only hope)

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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    Glad to hear it. This large of a project needs more than just a month or two of review.
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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    The longer this takes the better. There will be time to carefully scrutinize this massive mess that even John Conyers admitted he doesn't know what's in it and needs more lawyers to read it and interpret it for him.

    Yes folks, you just cannot fabricate the clown like atmosphere that now dominates American politics thanks to these buttclowns who now infest the Government.

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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    Regardless of whether this passes or not, and I hope it doesn't personally, time IS a good thing.

    There is absolutely, positively, ZERO reason this thing has to be passed NOW like Obama and his administration were trying to push it except for extremely "politics as usual", partisan, political reasons.

    A bill like this should take a while to work through, and its telling as to the importance not to the country but to the legacy/viability of Barack Obama and the questiaonble content of it that this thing was attempted to be pushed and shoved through at light speed.

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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Glad to hear it. This large of a project needs more than just a month or two of review.
    Republicans have been quite open about the fact that "delay" is code for "kill". They don't want time for "review", they want time to rally the misinformation machine and kill the bill. If they actually cared about fixing the H.C. system, Repubs would get behind the only decent alternative proposal to emerge from their ranks- the Wyden plan.

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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    Does that mean it's going to be October before I can sign up for my free insurance?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Republicans have been quite open about the fact that "delay" is code for "kill". They don't want time for "review", they want time to rally the misinformation machine and kill the bill. If they actually cared about fixing the H.C. system, Repubs would get behind the only decent alternative proposal to emerge from their ranks- the Wyden plan.
    "Kill" is good.

    I don't need health care destruction, myself, and can't imagine why anyone else would want to destroy the nation's health care industry, either.

    Why do you want it destroyed?

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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Republicans have been quite open about the fact that "delay" is code for "kill". They don't want time for "review", they want time to rally the misinformation machine and kill the bill. If they actually cared about fixing the H.C. system, Repubs would get behind the only decent alternative proposal to emerge from their ranks- the Wyden plan.
    You do understand that the Republicans can do nothing about this? Right? The Dems could have passed it last January if they wanted to. They could have passed it this week without a single Republican vote.

    No, the Democrats have a HUGE public relations problem with this, and several will be voted out of office for passing it. That is why there is a delay.

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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Regardless of whether this passes or not, and I hope it doesn't personally, time IS a good thing.

    There is absolutely, positively, ZERO reason this thing has to be passed NOW like Obama and his administration were trying to push it except for extremely "politics as usual", partisan, political reasons.

    A bill like this should take a while to work through, and its telling as to the importance not to the country but to the legacy/viability of Barack Obama and the questiaonble content of it that this thing was attempted to be pushed and shoved through at light speed.
    But ZOMG WTF, don't you care about THE CHILDREN!!!??!!???!

    Some cancer patient might die today in an alley without health coverage if we don't get this passed right now.

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    Re: No healthcare reform vote before autumn: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You do understand that the Republicans can do nothing about this? Right? The Dems could have passed it last January if they wanted to. They could have passed it this week without a single Republican vote.

    No, the Democrats have a HUGE public relations problem with this, and several will be voted out of office for passing it. That is why there is a delay.
    I am constantly amused when Liberals or Democrats attempt to claim that Republicans are responsible if this bill doesn't pass.

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