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    Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    WASHINGTON - Despite his public-relations blitz over the past two weeks to promote his plans to reform the nation's health-care system ó including holding two town halls on Wednesday ó President Barack Obama has lost ground on this issue with the American public, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

    Pluralities now say that the presidentís health care plan is a bad idea, and that it will result in the quality of their care getting worse. Whatís more, just four in 10 approve of his handling on the issue.
    Poll: Obama loses ground on health care - White House- msnbc.com

    Obama's learning a lesson, and that lesson is American's really do NOT want the government running their lives.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    As I cited in a poll in the other section of the forum, his handling of the health care issue has cost him some points with me.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    I said somewhere else that it is beginning to look to me like he'll essentially be a lame duck before the end of his first year in office.
    Quod scripsi, scripsi

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    the harder he tries, the further backwards he goes

    definition of INEFFECTIVE politician

    the most INEPT pol at the national level america has ever seen

    faster loser in history

    he had the world, including SIXTY senators and a THRILLED media

    and now his entire agenda is already kaput

    losers, reversals and dead letters---cap and trade, the public option, personal diplomacy with iran, blaming bush, closing gitmo, investigating "torture," prosecuting cheney, cutting the deficit in half, paygo, the stimuli, the cars takeovers, reaching out to rogues and runts, bailouts and bonuses for bunglers and bankrupts and bums, ending rendition, ending detention, ending the patriot act, ending don't ask don't tell, not hiring lobbyists, putting legislation online, ending earmarks, public finance of campaigns, not taxing benefits (the mccain plan), not taxing those under 250G, deficits at 12.65% of gdp...

    what remains within the Already Irrelevant's restricted reach?

    minimum wage?

    afterschool programs?

    the most INCOMPETENT politician at the national level america has ever seen

    sorry

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I said somewhere else that it is beginning to look to me like he'll essentially be a lame duck before the end of his first year in office.
    In sports, we call this "Over extending yourself".

    Obama has failed to focus on the big picture, and is running into a wall his speeches cannot overcome.

    2010 is gonna be interesting.
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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In sports, we call this "Over extending yourself".

    Obama has failed to focus on the big picture, and is running into a wall his speeches cannot overcome.

    2010 is gonna be interesting.
    I actually think you are on the right track here. In my mind he's pushing too much, too hard, too fast. The steamroller strategy is costing him. Essentially Washington is in grid lock over some of the programs. Recovery Act being one of them.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Poll: Obama loses ground on health care - White House- msnbc.com

    Obama's learning a lesson, and that lesson is American's really do NOT want the government running their lives.
    Oh yes....ahem, Americans...are teaching Obama a big lesson indeed.

    TheHill.com - Lobbyists gain upper hand in Obama battle
    In stark contrast to Obamaís first few months in office, special interest groups this summer have aggressively opposed the presidentís top domestic priorities. And they have succeeded in slowing legislation to revamp the nationís healthcare system, won an essential change to climate change legislation and put off efforts to set up a consumer agency in the financial sector.

    House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) initially planned to pass a financial regulatory reform bill through the lower chamber by the August recess. But unified financial-industry opposition to Obamaís proposal to set up a Consumer Financial Protection Agency caused Frank to delay his legislation until the fall.
    Whether you agree with Obama's proposals or not, let's not pretend that Obama is coming up against a tidal wave of good old fashioned Americans armed with their rugged, can-do American attitude. The Republicans may be in the overwhelming minority right now, but big money is still very much in charge.

    Finally, I do agree that Americans (the rugged, independent type at least) don't want government to run their lives, and one of the items that the health care bill would have overturned is the law that prevents Americans from getting their prescription drugs from abroad, like Canada. The lobbyists will almost certainly kill that as well, thus ensuring that government tells you exactly where you are allowed to buy your drugs.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 07-29-09 at 11:54 PM.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    This is what I think: I think people are tired of hearing about it.... period. Americans have a tendency to lose interest pretty darn fast. Furthermore, they get tired of the bickering, which, of course, the right is doing as much to promote. The childishness and lies of the right are getting in the way along with blue dogs, insurance companies and big pharma. Without a public option, we are all screwed.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    The Republican strategy is working: assign some members to "negotiate" with Democrats, stressing changes in the health care bill which will neuter it and make it unworkable. The goal, after all, is to either kill the bill or poison it so it will fail.

    I have not seen a single act of good will from Republicans on this issue, no gesture that indicates one of them actually wants to improve health care for Americans. It amazes me that a couple hundred thousand dollars in campaign donations can achieve such total results, the denial of workable health care in the world's most powerful nation.

    Republican "cooperation" in the health care bill is an act. Forget them and pass the best bill possible. There can be no bipartisan legislation with these people, their every word is calculated to advance the failure of the Democratic administration.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The Republican strategy is working: assign some members to "negotiate" with Democrats, stressing changes in the health care bill which will neuter it and make it unworkable. The goal, after all, is to either kill the bill or poison it so it will fail.
    No kidding! The bill is a bad bill--it will damage health care. Stopping it is in the best interests of folks in this country who actually enjoy being able to see a doctor when they are sick.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Republican "cooperation" in the health care bill is an act. Forget them and pass the best bill possible. There can be no bipartisan legislation with these people, their every word is calculated to advance the failure of the Democratic administration.
    The "best bill" in this case would be no bill at all. The Anti-Republicans can't conceive of healthcare that isn't run and rationed by government bureaucrats. They are pushing insane GovernmentCare ideas which are proven budget-busting failures--ideas that have been tried and have failed (TennCare, Commonwealth Care). Stopping such lunatic left wing errors is the best thing any legislator could do whose priority is the best interests of Americans.

    America needs everybody to push Dear Leader's Reign of Error towards collapse--his "success" would be a fiscal disaster for this country.

    Such is the nature of liberty, that to love this country is to despise Dear Leader and to pray mightily for the total failure of his agenda.

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