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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I actually think you are on the right track here. In my mind he's pushing too much, too hard, too fast. The steamroller strategy is costing him. Essentially Washington is in grid lock over some of the programs. Recovery Act being one of them.
    I agree Lerxst, he is being way too ambitious.
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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    All freedom loving individuals need to take advantage of the August recess to hammer their Congressman and Senators with phone calls and faxes to kill this bill. Once the government controls our health care, it's all down hill from here.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    All freedom loving individuals need to take advantage of the August recess to hammer their Congressman and Senators with phone calls and faxes to kill this bill. Once the government controls our health care, it's all down hill from here.
    That's not necessarily true. Why do you think that????
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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    All freedom loving individuals need to take advantage of the August recess to hammer their Congressman and Senators with phone calls and faxes to kill this bill. Once the government controls our health care, it's all down hill from here.
    Oh yeh, history is strewn with examples of poorly run government health care systems. The VA, Medicare, the plan that covers Congress.....wait...those all work. I thought government couldn't do anything right, you know...."I'm from the government and I want to help"? So if government run health care is a bad idea, how come the health care programs that the government runs WORK? Oh, you didn't think about that.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post

    The "best bill" in this case would be no bill at all. The Anti-Republicans can't conceive of healthcare that isn't run and rationed by government bureaucrats. They are pushing insane GovernmentCare ideas which are proven budget-busting failures--ideas that have been tried and have failed (TennCare, Commonwealth Care). Stopping such lunatic left wing errors is the best thing any legislator could do whose priority is the best interests of Americans.
    Funny: wasn't it the "freedom loving" Repubs who are primarily responsible for the Medicare prescription drug benefit designed to force taxpayers to subsidize private insurers and the pharmaceutical industry? No small surprise that special interest groups welcomed that particular budget busting piece of legislation.
    America needs everybody to push Dear Leader's Reign of Error towards collapse--his "success" would be a fiscal disaster for this country.
    I think that we will get some sort of H.C. bill and it may be my state that has a large hand in it.
    Our Republican Senators are hearing an ear full from Mainers who are being crushed by H.C. costs- at least the ones who are not already enrolled in Medicare or Medicaid. Letters to the Bangor Daily run about 5 to 1, in favor.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    I'm just curious, who here is paying their own health care costs and are happy with the result? Seems to me there are an awful lot of veterans against "government run health care", whose own health care comes from the V.A.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh yeh, history is strewn with examples of poorly run government health care systems. The VA, Medicare, the plan that covers Congress.....wait...those all work. I thought government couldn't do anything right, you know...."I'm from the government and I want to help"? So if government run health care is a bad idea, how come the health care programs that the government runs WORK? Oh, you didn't think about that.
    The VA has always been a mess. I used to be a claim examiner and recieved many calls from vets who would compain about the care they recieved through the VA and the waits involved to see a doctor.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The VA has always been a mess. I used to be a claim examiner and recieved many calls from vets who would compain about the care they recieved through the VA and the waits involved to see a doctor.
    The VA, on an annual budget of $87 billion, offers beds to 1,000,000 veterans annually and serves 60,000,000 outpatient visits each year. It is widely considered to be a successful government run system, despite your list of horror stories.
    What I find curious is the veterans who benefit from VA care yet vigorously protest single payer care for the rest of us.

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The VA, on an annual budget of $87 billion, offers beds to 1,000,000 veterans annually and serves 60,000,000 outpatient visits each year. It is widely considered to be a successful government run system, despite your list of horror stories.
    What I find curious is the veterans who benefit from VA care yet vigorously protest single payer care for the rest of us.
    Really, its "WIDELY" believed to be that? Do you base this off......anything? Or is this just your own opinion and anecdotal?

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    Re: Poll: Obama loses ground on health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Really, its "WIDELY" believed to be that? Do you base this off......anything? Or is this just your own opinion and anecdotal?

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    I don't think it is just his opinion.

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