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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Legal taxable pot won't work.

    Anyone can grow it and smoke it themselves, maybe sell it cheaper than gov't taxed dope.

    This is just a ploy to get it legalized. It's as simple as that.
    Legalized pot would (at least in part) most likely look a lot like the tobacco industry

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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Legalized pot would (at least in part) most likely look a lot like the tobacco industry
    I think so. Of course, it may have some elements of the alcohol industry, too. The bucks would be in the branding, imo. Good brands would have different specialized mixtures with different types of highs/effects/smoking properties/whatever. Some would be in pill or butter form, some in various other forms for various smoking paraphernalia. That sort of thing. I think it'd thrive, just like the tobacco or alcohol industry and provide taxable income out the wazoo.

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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Legal taxable pot won't work.

    Anyone can grow it and smoke it themselves, maybe sell it cheaper than gov't taxed dope.

    This is just a ploy to get it legalized. It's as simple as that.

    Yes it is a ploy to get it legalized.. and??

    As far as anyone can grow and smoke it themselves, you are quite correct, just as anyone can make their own alcohol and drink it themselves as well.

    Beer is very inexpensive and easy to make, and the turnover time between start to finish is a fraction of the time it would take marijuana. Do some people still brew it, most certainly (myself included). There are still plenty of people who would rather not spend the time and effort to make it themselves, and tax revenue form beer sales is doing just fine in spite of how easy it is to make beer.

    If the lost revenue from people growing pot is of concern, the solution is simple, require an annual licensing fee in order to be able to cultivate it, most hobby growers would gladly pay the fee.

    To preempt the counterpoint of enforcement of the licensing being an issue, yes there would be those who would skirt this, much as there are those who continue to distill moonshine. Impose stiff penalties on unlicensed cultivation (tax evasion essentially), put strict requirements on outdoor cultivation (especially to prohibit minors from being able to simply hop a fence and snip a bud from someones crop), and make it illegal to sell outside of a legal distribution facility (whatever form that may take).

    Between the costs of setting up a greenhouse, a secure outdoor grow, or the lighting and electricity costs of setting up an indoor grow, and the licensing fee the vast majority of smokers will find it MUCH easier to just go to their local smoke shop and purchase a bit to smoke than to grow it themselves. Those who do grow it themselves will do so because it is a labor of love, and still be taxed accordingly.
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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    Brilliant, Marduc!!!

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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Beer is very inexpensive and easy to make, and the turnover time between start to finish is a fraction of the time it would take marijuana. Do some people still brew it, most certainly (myself included).
    Been brewing my own for 16 years, and distilling for 3 years.

    Look. I could set up my own grow, outside the law just like they do now. After legalization, I'm home free. I can sell the crap out of it, undercut gov't taxed dope and make a mint. Tax free.

    Today's green dope THC level is through the roof, couple hits off a joint is all it takes. People pay top dollar for that sh*t. Doesn't take much to make a pile of money.

    Screw licenses. Who needs licenses, it's legal!

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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    A recent California Field Poll showed that more than half the people in the state, where marijuana for medical use was approved more than a decade ago, would approve of decriminalizing pot.
    Hmm .. one more reason to want to visit California then.


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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Been brewing my own for 16 years, and distilling for 3 years.

    Look. I could set up my own grow, outside the law just like they do now. After legalization, I'm home free. I can sell the crap out of it, undercut gov't taxed dope and make a mint. Tax free.

    Today's green dope THC level is through the roof, couple hits off a joint is all it takes. People pay top dollar for that sh*t. Doesn't take much to make a pile of money.

    Screw licenses. Who needs licenses, it's legal!
    Legally distributed MJ would be the best genetics available, and at a lower cost than the current black market, despite taxation (otherwise there would still be a viable black market). You will find your profit margin significantly undercut.

    If you set up your unlicensed grow, and undercut the taxed regulated crop, then you would be breaking the law, it would not be legal.

    But as I said, there would be exceptions, apparently you would be one of those. So what is stopping you from growing and selling it now aside from it being illegal, since you already have hinted that you would not care about the legalities of growing and selling it post-regulation?
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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    But as I said, there would be exceptions, apparently you would be one of those. So what is stopping you from growing and selling it now aside from it being illegal, since you already have hinted that you would not care about the legalities of growing and selling it post-regulation?
    That's my point. Anyone with a script can grow green dope right now in CA. Doesn't take much to package and make a few sales to make extra cash, tax free. What's a buyer going to do? Ask for your business license? You see, it doesn't take much to grow high quality green dope and undercut the gov't taxed dope. The gov't will not sell it for free? Right? Doesn't take much to recover your operating costs until a profit is made. Doesn't take much to grow a few plants in your backyard and make an enormous profit.

    Damn, I think I might go into farming.

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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    The federal government will never allow the absolute legalization of pot. It may allow (depending on the President) medical marijuana, but it won't let it go completely.
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    Re: Drive to legalize marijuana rolls on in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The federal government will never allow the absolute legalization of pot. It may allow (depending on the President) medical marijuana, but it won't let it go completely.

    And you know this how?

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