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    Re: SPIN METER: 'Help Wanted' counting stimulus jobs

    I don't think they're giving people jobs, then taking them away. I think they're just producing a lot of short term jobs

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    Re: SPIN METER: 'Help Wanted' counting stimulus jobs

    while it's true that it's oregonians doing the spinning here and not the white house, who cares about the spin?

    what's upsetting is AP finds that oregon for its 176 million dollars of federal stimulus has created the equivalent of 215 "full-time jobs that will last for 3 months," which comes to 53.75 full time jobs for a year

    more than 3 million dollars per job

    and that, i'm afraid, is entirely on obama

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    Re: SPIN METER: 'Help Wanted' counting stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    I don't think they're giving people jobs, then taking them away. I think they're just producing a lot of short term jobs
    Eh, it's still not enough. This stimulus thing blows, if all it's going to do is help people "short term."

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    Re: SPIN METER: 'Help Wanted' counting stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    while it's true that it's oregonians doing the spinning here and not the white house, who cares about the spin?

    what's upsetting is AP finds that oregon for its 176 million dollars of federal stimulus has created the equivalent of 215 "full-time jobs that will last for 3 months," which comes to 53.75 full time jobs for a year

    more than 3 million dollars per job

    and that, i'm afraid, is entirely on obama
    Go back and read the OP again. The $176 million being referred to doesn't have anything to do with the federal stimulus spending.

    These are funds they appropriated through bonds on the state level through a project called Go Oregon.

    The ďGo OregonĒ state stimulus plan authorizes $175 million in bonding to fund projects to address deferred maintenance projects across the state including needed repairs to transportation infrastructure, schools and colleges. These projects will create jobs for Oregonians at a time when the unemployment rate continues to climb.
    ODOT Procurement Office ODOT Go Oregon Projects

    It doesn't have anything to do with Obama.

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    Re: SPIN METER: 'Help Wanted' counting stimulus jobs

    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - How much are politicians straining to convince people that the government is stimulating the economy? In Oregon, where lawmakers are spending $176 million to supplement the federal stimulus, Democrats are taking credit for a remarkable feat: creating 3,236 new jobs in the program's first three months.

    tumbleweed is right and i am wrong

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    Re: SPIN METER: 'Help Wanted' counting stimulus jobs

    Although the President went to Caterpillar and RV Manufacturers to stress the need to pass the Porkulus spending bill to save jobs, it obviously was just another political ploy to use the financial crisis to scare people into accepting a very reckless government spending program that was never intended to stimulate the private sector and thereby save and create jobs, but instead intended to stimulate the growth of government and to payoff political patronage at the expense of the private sector and jobs.

    Nevertheless, considering the millions of jobs that have been loss since Obama became President, the notion that the Porkulus spending bill created jobs is absolutely ludicrous and if you believe otherwise, then obviously you will believe anything Obama and the Dhimmicrats tell you.

    Indeed, conservatives warned beforehand that Obamaís Porkulus spending bill would not create jobs and stimulate the private sector but instead would stimulate the growth of government and payoff political patronage at the expense of the private sector, and thatís exactly what happened.

    Not to mention that the Obama administration made sure that no one would get to read the damn bill before the vote.

    Too bad but had the Obama administration used common sense tax cuts to incentivize the private sector instead, millions of job losses would never have occurred and the economy would be in much better shape today. But to do that instead would run counter to the interests of the Dhimmicrat Party, as getting millions of people dependent and hooked on the nanny state is their real intention and you canít do that if you have a strong and vibrant economy.

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    Re: SPIN METER: 'Help Wanted' counting stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbeaux View Post
    Although the President went to Caterpillar and RV Manufacturers to stress the need to pass the Porkulus spending bill to save jobs, it obviously was just another political ploy to use the financial crisis to scare people into accepting a very reckless government spending program that was never intended to stimulate the private sector and thereby save and create jobs, but instead intended to stimulate the growth of government and to payoff political patronage at the expense of the private sector and jobs.

    Nevertheless, considering the millions of jobs that have been loss since Obama became President, the notion that the Porkulus spending bill created jobs is absolutely ludicrous and if you believe otherwise, then obviously you will believe anything Obama and the Dhimmicrats tell you.

    Indeed, conservatives warned beforehand that Obamaís Porkulus spending bill would not create jobs and stimulate the private sector but instead would stimulate the growth of government and payoff political patronage at the expense of the private sector, and thatís exactly what happened.

    Not to mention that the Obama administration made sure that no one would get to read the damn bill before the vote.

    Too bad but had the Obama administration used common sense tax cuts to incentivize the private sector instead, millions of job losses would never have occurred and the economy would be in much better shape today. But to do that instead would run counter to the interests of the Dhimmicrat Party, as getting millions of people dependent and hooked on the nanny state is their real intention and you canít do that if you have a strong and vibrant economy.
    This is a thread about Oregon state funded stimulas spending, not the federal stimulas spending you're referring to. Right river, wrong canoe.

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