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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    Not fully grasping the seriousness of the situation and denial are two very strong possibilities. Ms. Sanchez had been diagnosed with schizophrenia the previous year, but no one knows yet how involved her family was in the oversight of her treatment plan. Also, it's unclear at this time what, if any, patient teaching Ms. Sanchez or her family received regarding her increased risk of developing postpartum psychosis or the absolute necessity of strict adherence to her medication regimen to control her illness.

    Russell Yates received widespread criticism and blame for not preventing the death of his children as well.
    Very good points. Can you imagine how the sister feels now? I am sure this is going to haunt her forever.

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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Thank you for a very good response. I will read up on the topic. In fact, I'll see if I can get the signs and symptoms added to our local EMS training.

    I'm unable to elaborate, but our regional mental health system had a disastrous failure this week. So it's probably a good time for us to expand our horizons where mental health emergencies are concerned.
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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I don't believe in the deterrent power of punishment and as far as I have seen, social science doesn't bear it out. As far as I'm concerned, there are only two valid reactions to crime: euthanasia and rehabilitation. The main criterion in deciding between the two should be whether rehabilitation and release back into society is worth the time, effort, and risk that it involves.

    I would be willing to guess that we actually can rehabilitate this woman for the organic brain disorder which forced her to brutally kill her child. It would, in fact, be easier than attempting to treat the majority of habitual and career criminals. The question is whether or not we're capable of treating her for the terrible grief and horror at her own actions, and for the terrible social isolation that comes from being known as a child-killer. And that... I do not think there is any treatment for.

    Legally, she can not be held accountable for the death of her child. And that is a shame, because all of the legal options at our disposal for handling criminal insanity seem to me to be acts of unspeakable cruelty in this case.
    She already tried to kill herself by stabbing.
    Perhaps, not as a punishment but as a gesture of compassion, we should offer her the option of physician-assisted suicide, and escort her to Switzerland or wherever it's legal to receive it.

    That would be a humane option, spare Texas the expense of a grotesque spectacle of a trial, and probably fulfill the sick woman's wishes as well.
    And then we'd be rid of her.

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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Thank you for a very good response. I will read up on the topic. In fact, I'll see if I can get the signs and symptoms added to our local EMS training.

    I'm unable to elaborate, but our regional mental health system had a disastrous failure this week. So it's probably a good time for us to expand our horizons where mental health emergencies are concerned.
    Good for you, OC! If possible, be sure to let us know the outcome.




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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I saw the article on CNN and could not read it after the first sentence. I want to vomit.

    Jeez, I am crying just thinking about it. hiswoman said it perfectly. On top of this, one of my good friends at work went to college with a woman who left her 5-month old son accidentally in her car in Florida--she came back at 5pm, and he was dead. This just happened last Thursday.
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    There is no lack of irresponsibility in this world. People will do what people will do. The story of the woman hacking up her baby is horrendous, to say the least. I can't even imagine what demons possess ones mind to make her do such a horrid thing. That poor precious little soul.

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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Very good points. Can you imagine how the sister feels now? I am sure this is going to haunt her forever.
    Definitely. A lot of lives have been destroyed. Shakespeare himself would be hard pressed to compose a more heartbreaking tragedy.




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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    Definitely. A lot of lives have been destroyed. Shakespeare himself would be hard pressed to compose a more heartbreaking tragedy.
    Perhaps, although Titus Andronicus does come close.

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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Why the disgrace? She was out of her mind, and knowing she was out of her mind tried to have someone else care for her baby. She was immediately horrified with remorse at what she had done, and would not have harmed the child if she had any control over herself or any choice in the matter.

    You wouldn't beat a rabid dog. Why would you shame and punish this woman?
    Shame and punishment aren't my objective. I merely want her put down. Strictly utilitarian.

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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

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    And then we'd be rid of her.
    As horrific as this crime is, I would hate to think making people disposable is a healthy choice for any society.

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    Re: Texas investigators stunned by child dismemberment

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    As horrific as this crime is, I would hate to think making people disposable is a healthy choice for any society.
    Unlike you, I believe people have the right to make the decision to end their lives at will. If the person is mentally ill (as is the case in this situation) I don't believe that necessarily negates that right, any more than it would negate a woman's right to abortion. it's the same sort of thing: a bodily sovereignty issue (as in, "Who owns your body? You, or the state?).

    We must ask ourselves whether it's probable that the mentally ill person is being reasonable in this instance (in wishing to end her life), even though she may not have been reasonable in other instances.

    I think if we ask ourselves objectively if we would want to end our lives in her position (having dismembered and partially eaten our children), then we will have our answer as to whether or not she's making a reasonable decision.

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