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    Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    RALEIGH, N.C. A North Carolina father who led an unobtrusive rural life as a drywall contractor had militant roots dating back to 1980s Afghanistan and Pakistan and secretly led a U.S. group plotting international terrorism, federal prosecutors said.

    Daniel Patrick Boyd, 39, was arrested Monday with his two sons and four other North Carolina men. Prosecutors accused them of military-style training at home and plotting "violent jihad" through a series of terror attacks abroad.

    Authorities believe Boyd's roots in terrorism run deep. They said when he was in Pakistan and Afghanistan from 1989 through 1992, he had military-style training in terrorist camps and fought the Soviets, who were ending their occupation of Afghanistan.

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    At the risk of being dinged for editorial content, I recommend you all read the linked article and consider the story of Mr. Boyd.

    I'd be interested in your comments on the ramifications for public safety if "the guy next door" could be this far gone in such a movement. Mr. Boyd is the fellow on the lower right of the photo.

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    North Carolina Father, Sons Among 7 Charged With Plotting 'Violent Jihad'

    Holy ****

    But court records indicate Boyd was a veteran of terrorist training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan who fought against the Soviet Union.

    "These charges hammer home the point that terrorists and their supporters are not confined to the remote regions of some far-away land but can grow and fester right here at home," U.S. Attorney George E.B. Holding said.
    North Carolina Father, Sons Among 7 Charged With Plotting 'Violent Jihad' - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com
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    Re: North Carolina Father, Sons Among 7 Charged With Plotting 'Violent Jihad'

    OH NOES!!!! They can be from here too! Quick, government put cameras up everywhere, including in our homes! Tap everything....everything! The terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming!!!!

    What I find funny is that the guy was "a veteran of terrorist training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan who fought against the Soviet Union". Interesting eh? Fighting the Soviet Union. Wonder who trained those guys....
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    Re: North Carolina Father, Sons Among 7 Charged With Plotting 'Violent Jihad'

    I loved this line:
    The wives of the men told The Associated Press in an interview at the time they were glad the truth about their husbands had finally become known

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    What's even more interesting are those that say we need to only profile "arab" looking people at the airport.

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    They were living their "Rural Life" in the area I grew up. They look vaguely familiar, but they also blend in the general countenance of the population.

    Honestly, out in the Cedar Grove - Rougemont (about where they're from) area if there is no complaints filed against you, you can live in peace doing whatever you do.

    That's the price people out here are willing to take for "freedoms"; the possibility that Jimmy next door is an international terrorist.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Honestly, out in the Cedar Grove - Rougemont (about where they're from) area if there is no complaints filed against you, you can live in peace doing whatever you do.

    That's the price people out here are willing to take for "freedoms"; the possibility that Jimmy next door is an international terrorist.
    Well ****, that sounds pretty reasonable. I'll take it. You sound like you don't like that, what would you do? Have random police inspections? Random wire tapping?
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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Look at this 18 year old story, in which a Utah Congressman intervened to prevent this guy from getting his hands and feet cut off in Pakistan.


    Rep. Wayne Owens, D-Utah, is seeking to prevent Pakistan from amputating the right hands and left feet of two Americans - who are sons of a friend's secretary - as punishment after conviction there for robbery.

    Daniel Patrick Boyd, 22, and Charles Thomas Boyd, 30, are sons of a secretary of Owens' friend, Hal Furman, whose Washington law firm lobbies Congress for the Central Utah Project.The Boyds were convicted in a June 1991 bank robbery where $3,500 was taken. They were sentenced to each have a right hand and left foot amputated, serve long prison sentences and pay fines.

    So Owens, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, arranged a meeting Tuesday with members of the committee to express concern to Pakistani ambassador Najmudding A. Shaikh.

    "The ambassador cannot absolutely assure us that the amputations would not occur but told us as strongly as possible that the chances are remote," Owens said after the meeting.

    Shaikh told the press the Boyds' case is on appeal to the Pakistani Supreme Court, which has never allowed an amputation case to proceed after his country passed a 1979 law to permit them. Shaik said he expects a ruling on their appeal by the end of the month.
    Deseret News | OWENS TRYING TO PREVENT AMPUTATIONS ON 2 AMERICANS

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well ****, that sounds pretty reasonable. I'll take it. You sound like you don't like that, what would you do? Have random police inspections? Random wire tapping?
    There's not enough resources for those things.

    We're talking very limited wireless cellphone signal, absolutely no cable companies (people who use the internet and can afford it have satellite or dial-up), the town centers are centered next to the only diner in a 30 mile radius, people drive 30 miles minimum to go to an established super-market, or a Wal-Mart.

    The cops respond to emergencies only. I've driven 100 mph plus down the road that connects these "neck of the woods" to civilization and not worry about cops.

    If I do find a cop in this area, then I know their son or daughter and I went to school or played sports with their son or daughter, and they let me go.

    People hark for personal freedoms and the government getting off of "our back", but where there is absolute freedom, a simple incision in the fabric of morality can rip the whole tribe open.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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