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Turbeaux said:
In my book we have only three options.

First, wipe off 1.5 billion people from the face planet.
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That seems maybe a bit excessive. Totalitarianism never really leads to any place good. And holy wars have never ended well either...usually in some form of Children's crusades or Spanish Inquisition sort of thing. I can't begin to start to understand the irrationalities of religion, but I do think we can probably get through this without resorting to genocide.

Or we can wipe all religious people off the face of the planet. Wipe the slate clean, make sure we get them all so that some other religion doesn't pop up to start causing troubles again. I mean, if we're going for genocide, we might as well be complete.
 
Laila said:
Genocide eh
And you call Muslims blood thirsty.
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Uhm...didn't I say that opton was extremely distasteful to my sensibilities? Your reading comprehension is below standard to say the least.
 
Turbeaux said:
A Muslim apologist yes. A Muslim no.
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I'm not going to waste my time proving my own faith to you.

The bottom line is, You Fail.
 
Turbeaux said:
Uhm...didn't I say that opton was extremely distasteful to my sensibilities? Your reading comprehension is below standard to say the least.
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The fact you write it says something about you doesn't it.
 
Ikari said:
That seems maybe a bit excessive. Totalitarianism never really leads to any place good. And holy wars have never ended well either...usually in some form of Children's crusades or Spanish Inquisition sort of thing. I can't begin to start to understand the irrationalities of religion, but I do think we can probably get through this without resorting to genocide.

Or we can wipe all religious people off the face of the planet. Wipe the slate clean, make sure we get them all so that some other religion doesn't pop up to start causing troubles again. I mean, if we're going for genocide, we might as well be complete.
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Just curious...where it is that I advocated genocide? What...are all the reading comprehension challenged people on the planet posting on this forum?
 
Laila said:
I'm not going to waste my time proving my own faith to you.

The bottom line is, You Fail.
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Aw shucks, I was looking forward to you trying to humor me.:confused:
 
Turbeaux said:
Aw shucks, I was looking forward to you trying to humor me.:confused:
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I'm pretty confident everyone on the board, apart from you are aware of my faith. I hardly need to prove it for some nobody
 
Laila said:
The fact you write it says something about you doesn't it.
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Yes it does. It says that I see the world with much more moral clarity than you do.
 
Turbeaux said:
Just curious...where it is that I advocated genocide? What...are all the reading comprehension challenged people on the planet posting on this forum?
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I don't think it's a problem with reading comprehension on our part. You claimed a solution is to wipe out 1.5 billion people. Totalitarian acts of brutal genocide against a people is what you wrote down as a possible solution. I said that I don't think we need to resort to that option. That it can be handled without it. So maybe the one who is lacking in reading comprehension is you sir. Remember, when you point a finger there are three pointing back at you.
 
Turbeaux said:
Yes it does. It says that I see the world with much more moral clarity than you do.
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Oh yeah.
And that you are no better than the animals who kill innocent people
 
Laila said:
I'm pretty confident everyone on the board, apart from you are aware of my faith. I hardly need to prove it for some nobody
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Well be that way!:mrgreen:

By the way, how are the suras in the Koran ordered?
 
Turbeaux said:
By the way, how are the suras in the Koran ordered?
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Are you talking about how many surahs? How many verses? Or how it is read?
Because your question makes no sense to me whatsoever.
 
Ikari said:
I don't think it's a problem with reading comprehension on our part. You claimed a solution is to wipe out 1.5 billion people. Totalitarian acts of brutal genocide against a people is what you wrote down as a possible solution. I said that I don't think we need to resort to that option. That it can be handled without it. So maybe the one who is lacking in reading comprehension is you sir. Remember, when you point a finger there are three pointing back at you.
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You are still very confused, so please let me help you out. You can thank me later:

In my book we have only three options.

First, wipe off 1.5 billion people from the face planet.

Second, we can surrender and succumb to Islam and if you are of the people of the book, i.e., a Christian or Jew, you have three choices to choose from: you can either choose to convert, become a dhimmi and pay the Jizya with willing submission, and live a very oppressed and degrading life, or face death, per Koran 9.29. On the other hand, if you are secular or otherwise neither Christian nor Jew, your choices are either conversion or death.

Third, we can disengage from the Dar al Islam altogether as much as possible.

Of the three above options, the first one is extremely distasteful to my sensibilities, the second one is too depressing to even contemplate, and therefore that leaves only the last one, which in my book is easily the most sensible one.
 
Laila said:
Oh yeah.
And that you are no better than the animals who kill innocent people
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Coming from you I'll take that as a complment. Thank you very much.
 
Turbeaux said:
You are still very confused, so please let me help you out. You can thank me later:
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You are still very confused, let me help you out. I never said you advocated the first option. I said the first option isn't much of an option at all as it leads to bad places and can easily be avoided. You're welcome. :roll:
 
Turbeaux said:
Coming from you I'll take that as a complment. Thank you very much.
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You are very welcome.
It always is interesting seeing those who revel in being compared to terrorists.

You sure you aren't the extremists that the rest of us should be worried about.
 
Laila said:
Are you talking about how many surahs? How many verses? Or how it is read?
Because your question makes no sense to me whatsoever.
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Oh yes it does. Just like I said a Muslim apologist but not a Muslim.

And thanks for demonstrating it!
 
No really, it actually does not make sense.

But nvm, whatever helps you sleep at night.
LOL, i am being called a Non Muslim by a non believer, hilarious. Now i have seen everything on this forum
 
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Ikari said:
You are still very confused, let me help you out. I never said you advocated the first option. I said the first option isn't much of an option at all as it leads to bad places and can easily be avoided. You're welcome. :roll:
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I knew you would see it my way after I cleared it up for you. Don't worry you don't have to thank me.
 
Laila said:
You are very welcome.
It always is interesting seeing those who revel in being compared to terrorists.
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Well you know one must consider the source.

You sure you aren't the extremists that the rest of us should be worried about.
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I promise I don't have a suicide vest visibly strapped to my chest.
 
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Turbeaux said:
I knew you would see it my way after I cleared it up for you. Don't worry you don't have to thank me.
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I won't thank you because you are the one who falsely accused and insulted me.
 
Laila said:
No really, it actually does not make sense.

But nvm, whatever helps you sleep at night.
LOL, i am being called a Non Muslim by a non believer, hilarious. Now i have seen everything on this forum
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The suras are ordered from longest to shortest, except for the first one, which contains a brief invocation. Thank you very much.
 
Turbeaux said:
I promise I don't have a suicide vest visibly strapped to my chest.
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I don't believe you.
I think you should be deported from your country and shot for the safety of everyone else in this world. Thats right, i said it. After all, how am i supposed to know you won't come after me from all the way over there
 
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