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Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

apdst said:
There were bombs when Mohammed was alive.
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Oh sweet jesus.

Are you aware of what period we are talking about?

Okay, lets start basics.
Do you know who Prophet Mohammed is?
 
Tucker Case said:
Gunpowder was unknown to the Arab world for over 600 years after the time of Muhammad, who was born in 570. Gunpowder made it's way to the ME in the 1200's.
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True, but Greek Fire was invented before Mohammed's birth, the 3rd Century. Greek Fire was used to make the first hand grenades.

Oh sweet jesus.

Are you aware of what period we are talking about?

Okay, lets start basics.
Do you know who Prophet Mohammed is?
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Obviously, I do. How 'bout you learn a little more history before you try and bust someone's chops with historical information? m'kay, punkin?
 
apdst said:
Obviously, I do. How 'bout you learn a little more history before you try and bust someone's chops with historical information? m'kay, punkin?
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Hilarious.

Now lets move on to the next question.
Have you read the Qu'ran and hadiths? Visited a Mosque? Have you ever even spoken to a Imam before? :roll:
 
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Laila said:
Hilarious.

Now lets move on to the next question.
Have you read the Qu'ran and hadiths? Visited a Mosque? Have you ever even spoken to a Imam before? :roll:
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I shot an Imam once. Does that count?
 
Tucker Case said:
So? Does that make their bombs less effective? does that make their killing less horrible?
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Why…did I suggest that? But surely you are not in denial of the ongoing global jihad? And surely you are not trying to suggest that the threat from random kooks, crazies, and flakes is as great as the threat emanating from Islamic terrorism.

And if we focus all our efforts on stopping 9/11, which ain't EVER happening again, something worse will occur.
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How? Not to mention that I never suggested focusing all of our efforts only on stopping 9/11. Where does that come from?

Nevertheless, the threat of Islamic terrorist attacks is an exponentially far greater threat to our national security and also the world’s national security than random terrorist attacks created by kooks, crazies, and flakes. In any event, I’m far more worried about the stealth forms of jihad that take place right under the radar of the public’s scrutiny.
 
apdst said:
I shot an Imam once. Does that count?
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Either you are serious or that is a weak attempt at humour.

If the first, you have issues.
If the second, you failed.
 
apdst said:
True, but Greek Fire was invented before Mohammed's birth, the 3rd Century. Greek Fire was used to make the first hand grenades.
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All the data I can find states it was actually invented around 100 years AFTER his birth (around 673).
 
Turbeaux said:
In any event, I’m far more worried about the stealth forms of jihad that take place right under the radar of the public’s scrutiny.
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Do tell ...

What are these stealth forms of Jihad?

Wait, i forgot the good part. Define Jihad or what you think it is to Muslims ...
 
Turbeaux said:
Why…did I suggest that? But surely you are not in denial of the ongoing global jihad? And surely you are not trying to suggest that the threat from random kooks, crazies, and flakes is as great as the threat emanating from Islamic terrorism.
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Yes. I'm stating unequivocally that all terrorism is an equal threat. You disagree based on something as inconsequential as religion?



How? Not to mention that I never suggested focusing all of our efforts only on stopping 9/11. Where does that come from?
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If we only focus on muslim-looking folks we are only trying to prevent 9/11.

A terrorist attack can, has, and will again come from non-muslims. I guarantee it.

Nevertheless, the threat of Islamic terrorist attacks is an exponentially far greater threat to our national security and also the world’s national security than random terrorist attacks created by kooks, crazies, and flakes. In any event, I’m far more worried about the stealth forms of jihad that take place right under the radar of the public’s scrutiny.
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The threats of terrorism are equal regardless of the ideology of the terrorists. No crazy person is more of a threat than another crazy person simply because they worship differently.

Crazy is crazy.
 
Laila said:
Either you are serious or that is a weak attempt at humour.

If the first, you have issues.
If the second, you failed.
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I was very serious.
 
apdst said:
I was very serious.
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Then refer back to my answer on the first.

Have you ever considered seeing a doctor? Preferably going to a hospital where they have bars and lots of drugs?
 
Tucker Case said:
All the data I can find states it was actually invented around 100 years AFTER his birth (around 673).
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The brand name, "Greek Fire", was invented in 672, yes, but the formula goes back as far as the Byzentine Empire. Before that, in the 3rd Century, at the Siege of Delium flame throwers were used, using a similar formula as Greek Fire.
 
Laila said:
Then refer back to my answer on the first.

Have you ever considered seeing a doctor? Preferably going to a hospital where they have bars and lots of drugs?
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Why? I don't have a problem.
 
apdst said:
The brand name, "Greek Fire", was invented in 672, yes, but the formula goes back as far as the Byzentine Empire. Before that, in the 3rd Century, at the Siege of Delium flame throwers were used, using a similar formula as Greek Fire.
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When were grenades employed?
 
apdst said:
Why? I don't have a problem.
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Erm ... no, of course you don't dear ...

I mean you know, sane people shoot people for no reason .... silly me

*cough*
 
Laila said:
Erm ... no, of course you don't dear ...

I mean you know, sane people shoot people for no reason .... silly me

*cough*
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Who the are you to judge me? How in the goddamn hell do you know I didn't have a reason, or license to do what I did? You don't know me.
 
Researching grenades, I'm getting 8th century as the first appearance of grenades, used by the Byzantines.
 
apdst said:
Who the are you to judge me? How in the goddamn hell do you know I didn't have a reason, or license to do what I did? You don't know me.
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Well i would assume if you had shot someone for a reason, you would have expanded on it. But seeing you left it at 'I shot a Imam' kinda makes one suspicious.

Oh yeah, licence to shoot people?
What are you trying to be? James Bond? And he got away with it because he was hot ... and not real
 
Tucker Case said:
Researching grenades, I'm getting 8th century as the first appearance of grenades, used by the Byzantines.
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yeah, the damn 8th century. Year vs. Century ****s me up somtimes :rofl
 
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