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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Oh my.

    Please US do not react the same we in Europe do when homegrown terrorism occurs.
    Tighten and strip away civil liberties one by one under the guise of 'protecting us' from those nasty terrorists amongst our midst (you know, which is why they want my DNA, Put cameras in every damn corner and have the ability to search without a warrant and arrest without cause)
    Ya'll never had many civil liberties to strip away, so I'm sure you didn't really notice.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, what terrorist orgs did those terrorists belong to, what are their agendas and where do they operate? Thanks in advance for the info on that.
    Moving the goalposts? When did you ask for "groups" before?

    Does one need to be in a group to blow up an airplane?

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ya'll never had many civil liberties to strip away, so I'm sure you didn't really notice.
    You mistake us for France where there is no such thing as freedom of press

    Don't be too sure, before the filth called Labour creeped in and started stealing it slowly after 9/11.

    Just imagine we once did have the ability to protest when we wanted and the right to say what we wanted without having the Government monitor your everyword. Its like mourning the death of a family member, you never realise just how special it is until it is taken or curbed.


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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So you would like those things but don't think it's possible currently to implement? Not sure what you're trying to say. I want personal freedoms, and the government to get off my back. I will take what ever duty, responsibility, and consequence that comes with freedom. If it means there may be a terrorist down the street from me (no matter how unlikely that will ever be), the so be it. I'll take it so that I can be free. No amount of safety is worth any amount of freedom.
    Would I personally want these places I grew up in to be hawked by the Government? Yeah sure, but they sure as hell better have a warrant.

    Even Google Maps/Globe miss these areas. There is no interest by federal governments (nor State, or local gov'ts) to keep on eye on these places. They are farms, woods, and crack-houses.

    I think for the most part there is no need to keep an eye on middle-lower class farmers and descendants thereof. It's hard enough for most of the people to get their children through college, they're not about to go blow up Bank of America.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Moving the goalposts? When did you ask for "groups" before?

    Does one need to be in a group to blow up an airplane?
    Well, to qualify as a terrorist one has to have an agenda, or be a part of a movement that is furthered by a terror campaign. Otherwise, we're just talking about a few lone wolf nut jobs.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You mistake us for France where there is no such thing as freedom of press

    Don't be too sure, before the filth called Labour creeped in and started stealing it slowly after 9/11.

    Just imagine we once did have the ability to protest when we wanted and the right to say what we wanted without having the Government monitor your everyword. Its like mourning the death of a family member, you never realise just how special it is until it is taken or curbed.
    Liberalism sucks. Don't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Would I personally want these places I grew up in to be hawked by the Government? Yeah sure, but they sure as hell better have a warrant.

    Even Google Maps/Globe miss these areas. There is no interest by federal governments (nor State, or local gov'ts) to keep on eye on these places. They are farms, woods, and crack-houses.

    I think for the most part there is no need to keep an eye on middle-lower class farmers and descendants thereof. It's hard enough for most of the people to get their children through college, they're not about to go blow up Bank of America.
    I think we should go the opposite way. We should have the government not hawk the areas it already does. The government doesn't need to be keeping tabs on us, they can piss off. What we need is less government, not more. Less intrusion, better adherence to the Constitution, and a resolve to accept the duties and consequences of freedom.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    They were living their "Rural Life" in the area I grew up. They look vaguely familiar, but they also blend in the general countenance of the population.

    Honestly, out in the Cedar Grove - Rougemont (about where they're from) area if there is no complaints filed against you, you can live in peace doing whatever you do.

    That's the price people out here are willing to take for "freedoms"; the possibility that Jimmy next door is an international terrorist.
    True...That is the price we Americans pay for Freedom. Imagine the "price" Boyd will pay when he reaches Prison. The Aryan BrotherHood will show him "Special Attention".

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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Liberalism sucks. Don't it?
    As does Neo-Conservatism. Big government, big war, big spending, big deficit, big brother platforms. Horrible fascism.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    As does Neo-Conservatism. Big government, big war, big spending, big deficit, big brother platforms. Horrible fascism.
    You'll never be able to pin all that on Conservatives, bro.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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