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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I wonder if you'd of said that say... two years ago or so? I'm thinking no.
    Well then...your guess is wrong. Because every one of our ex-Presidents comes from a Christian background (at least I think so). I would assume that at lease some of them have sat through at least one sermon filled with the type of hate that sometimes comes across a Christian pulpit.
    But not having sat through 200+ years of sermons, its hard to say.
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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I see you are ignoring the fact... Israel got burned in that attempt.

    How far backwards do they have to bend for peace when that bend puts them at greater risk?
    I am not ignoring that Israel got burned, I am pointing out that the issue was very nearly resolved, and that the announcement of Palestinian statehood was expected at any moment. It shows that agreement is possible.

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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Given that Israel, unlike the Palestinians and the other Arab states, do not condone the use of terrorism as public policy, saying "yes" to everything Israel wants, while not the wisest of courses, is considerably more prudent than saying "no" to everything Israel needs....like defensible borders and an understanding that lobbing rockets at Israeli civilians is not an acceptable hobby, not even for Hamas and Hezbollah lackeys.
    and, of course, he has never said "no" to that.
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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well then...your guess is wrong. Because every one of our ex-Presidents comes from a Christian background (at least I think so). I would assume that at lease some of them have sat through at least one sermon filled with the type of hate that sometimes comes across a Christian pulpit.
    But not having sat through 200+ years of sermons, its hard to say.


    I love how you moved the goal posts there buddy.

    20 years of racist hate filled bigotry is now the same as "one hate filled sermon".

    How much further will you go to lie to yourself?
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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    I don't care what the hell Israel thinks. They can have whatever anti-US rallies they want. If that's all they have for argument for our support or whatever, then they ain't got **** for an argument. If it were up to me, I wouldn't fund or support any of those guys over there. None of them want peace, none of them will do what it takes to end this conflict, and I don't think any of our time, energy, or money should go into it.
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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I love how you moved the goal posts there buddy.

    20 years of racist hate filled bigotry is now the same as "one hate filled sermon".

    How much further will you go to lie to yourself?
    What are you basing your contentions on?

    Do have any evidence that any of our former Presidents sat through a year, two years, 10 years, 20 years, etc of week after week of hate-filled bigotry?

    Or are you just making allegations out of **** you are pulling out of the air?
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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    Do note that those are only a bunch of Far-Right Israelis, and that the protest wasn't anything big.
    The willingness of some of the posters here to generalize entire groups time after time is really getting irritating.
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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    For the first time in years, the nationalist camp will hold a large scale rally against United States policies vis--vis Israel.
    Meh, just a protest. Why does it matter?
    How much you wanna bet it is a minority


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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Peace in the Middle East will not come by kissing Israel's ass, as Bush did. If anyone can negotiate the delicate obstacles to peace, I believe Hillary and Obama can.
    Since you already received the sarcastic replies to this posting and those that followed in its defense I will attempt not to pile on etc.

    My reply to this original statement is that since peace in the middle east has been on the agenda of pretty much every administration since the establishment of Israel, and many have treated it as a priority and invested much time and effort into establishing peace etc. just exactly what can or will Clinton or Obama have to utilize that will allow them a increased chance at success?

    Nothing against either of them, but this problem is so intricate and deeply rooted in thousands of years of history that is showered in brutality it would seem difficult to believe that anyone with the history or experience in this area as these two have would have true ability to have a positive effect.

    Also something I have not seen posted yet is the very fact that the conflicts in question have been "used" to facilitate or substantiate other actions that have proven very successful if not profitable for those outside the conflict with deep concerns or plenty of advice.

    Being I have heard the stories from both sides or views from those who have lived through this ordeal, and knowing the very deep beliefs and scaring involved I honestly just do not see the answer to these problems coming from outside the region, and almost believe it must come from within the problem.

    I almost want to twist this into a story of why it is not a good idea to hire a shady attorney to help make people be happy and get along, anymore than to hire one to fix your roof, but I figured I would keep it clean and simple.

    Still though protests against the US are not anything new in the ME, it is still interesting to hear of them being held inside our strongest ally in the area, and this should alert us all that something is either changing, or not exactly right.
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    Re: Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't care what the hell Israel thinks. They can have whatever anti-US rallies they want. If that's all they have for argument for our support or whatever, then they ain't got **** for an argument. If it were up to me, I wouldn't fund or support any of those guys over there. None of them want peace, none of them will do what it takes to end this conflict, and I don't think any of our time, energy, or money should go into it.
    Considering how much money, assets, intelligence not to mention how many times they've spied on us, we should be calling the shots, not the other way around. By one estimate, it's over $1.6 trillion. The fact that they have the gall to tell us what to do is pretty nuts.

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