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    Re: Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    So would you say holocaust denial was fairly mainstream among muslims?
    Its a hard question you ask me. Muslims are extremely diverse group and i have not had enough contact with every single group to make such a judgement, i do not wish to make a impression that every Muslim denies the Holocaust because it is not true but in some groups denial is more prevelant than others like Arab societies but that is more because of regional politics than a true denial of the holocaust.

    But from my experience with the Muslims i have been in contact with, many do downplay the impact and true scale of the holocaust
    I think there is a attitude that if they recognise the holocaust and acknowledge the damage it might lead to sympathy for Israel and chip away at the Palestinians suffering
    Education is a key issue, not one Muslim school i have attended have holocaust in any curriculum of theirs because it simply is not viewed as important enough to learn


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    Re: Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The Zionist movement began in the 1880s.
    And if 6 million Jews was not killed in such a horrific way, they would not have gotten anywhere and we all know it.
    Why does it pain some to recognise the truth? The holocaust played a massive contribution to the creation of Israel, perhaps even the single most important trigger to cause it.


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    Re: Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    And if 6 million Jews was not killed in such a horrific way, they would not have gotten anywhere and we all know it.
    Why does it pain some to recognise the truth? The holocaust played a massive contribution to the creation of Israel, perhaps even the single most important trigger to cause it.
    Once again -- how could there possibly be causation when the zionist movement preceeded the holocaust by so many decades?

    You can say that it is your opinion that the holocaust influenced the urgency with which the state was created, but to attribute it as the cause is erronious and illogical.

    It's not as if people woke up in the 1940s and said -- "oh, let's create Israel because we've heard some rumors the Nazis are gassing them."
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    Re: Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

    It had decades, and went nowhere.
    A genocide occurs and a state is formed within years. Is no one else not getting this?
    The holocaust was the main reason Israel came into existence, in my opinion


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    Re: Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It had decades, and went nowhere.
    A genocide occurs and a state is formed within years. Is no one else not getting this?
    The holocaust was the main reason Israel came into existence, in my opinion
    Balfour declaration was signed before the Holocaust.

    One could say that without the Holocaust, Israel would have hundreds of thousands more Jews than it has today, including the high-IQ populations of the German Jewish community that was near-entirely slaughtered in the Holocaust.

    One could never, however, declare that without the Holocaust Israel would not exist, as there is no option to know this.
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    Re: Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

    It was always known that the King of Morocco is kind towards the Jews.
    I'm just glad that there is a beacon of light in the Muslim world.
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    Re: Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

    I think it's wonderful that he has spoken out like he has. Good for him.
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