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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Sergeant Crowley doesn't come off looking bad at all, in my book....and that's saying something because cops and I generally do not get along.

    He investigated a report of a break-in, Gates went full retard because he saw a white cop standing on his porch (never mind that the reason he was there was because a white neighbor saw what looked like a someone breaking into Gates' home and called the cops about it--doing basically what good neighbors are supposed to do, which is look out for each other), and when Gates wouldn't put his mouth in neutral, Crowley did the next best thing and put it in park.
    I personally think he does. He had zero reason to even stay at the scene after confirming that there was not a break-in in progress. See ID, leave. Sure, Gates could have been more co-operative, but that officer had no reason, legal or otherwise, to stay in Gates' home after confirming his identity.

    And could you explain what you mean by "full-retard"? It's not an expression I've ever heard before.
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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    It shows that cops and the DA have better things to worry about than piss-ant professors.

    Gates disturbed the peace. He got himself a four-hour time out at the police station to ruminate on the relative wisdom of calling cops racist in public.

    The cops asked the DA to enter nolle prosequi in the case--like they do in a number of disturbing the peace cases--because once everyone calms down, there's no compelling need to haul his ass before a judge.

    It's not a BS arrest. It would be a BS prosecution if the DA pursued it, but that doesn't make it a BS arrest.
    I think they were embarassed by the whole thing and new there was no reason for the arrest. Look, I agree with many of your points. People lose their ****, I get that. I just do not think the government should have a right to come onto your property and arrest you for arguing with police. If the officer would have left it would have been over.

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I think they were embarassed by the whole thing and new there was no reason for the arrest. Look, I agree with many of your points. People lose their ****, I get that. I just do not think the government should have a right to come onto your property and arrest you for arguing with police. If the officer would have left it would have been over.
    Instead he radioed for back-up, multiple times, for an elderly man who'd already confirmed that there was no crime in progress. A bit extreme there.
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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Instead he radioed for back-up, multiple times, for an elderly man who'd already confirmed that there was no crime in progress. A bit extreme there.
    A crippled at that!

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    A crippled at that!
    Oh yeah, he apparently walks with a cane.
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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Instead he radioed for back-up, multiple times, for an elderly man who'd already confirmed that there was no crime in progress. A bit extreme there.
    people don't like to be talked down to.

    Most of us, if given the authority to "get even", would abuse that authority to do so. Hopegully most of us would regret it later, but sadly, this isn't the case here.

    Clearly any said peace disturbance would go away if the cop left the persons property. He chose to use his power to the fullest and make an arrest. to "get even".

    If someone wants to step forward as an actual victim, I will happily change my tune. Until then, textbook case of competing egos and abuse of power.

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    For anyone who's interested, the full text of the arrest report can be found here.

    Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Police Report - July 23, 2009
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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    people don't like to be talked down to.

    Most of us, if given the authority to "get even", would abuse that authority to do so. Hopegully most of us would regret it later, but sadly, this isn't the case here.

    Clearly any said peace disturbance would go away if the cop left the persons property. He chose to use his power to the fullest and make an arrest. to "get even".

    If someone wants to step forward as an actual victim, I will happily change my tune. Until then, textbook case of competing egos and abuse of power.
    That's the thing though. Police officers are charged with protecting the law. We depend on them to help keep us all safe. If they're arresting people to "get even", that then weakens the trust we need to have in them as administrators of the law.
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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Gates did not disturb the peace, if they felt he did, then make a charge stick.
    To what end? Gates calmed down after his time-out at the police station....what more would making the charge stick accomplish?

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    To what end? Gates calmed down after his time-out at the police station....what more would making the charge stick accomplish?
    It would show example to the claims of few of you had made, that it is illegal to stand on your property and call the police racist.

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