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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Piff.
    If GWB had done something like this, the Obamanistas would have screamed for his resignation.
    Can you imagine if Bush had called an officer "stupid"? MSNBC would have led with it every night until the next election. Instead, they'll bury this is a week.

    I think this will haunt Obama for the rest of his presidency. He nothing more than another Al Sharpton from here on.

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Well, this officers opinion is certainly different than that of his employer, Cambridge PD, who have not only decided against persuing charges on this matter but have called the hole matter "regretable" and have said it should not be seen as demeaning Gates' character.

    Not to mention that the officer in question stated that he believed he was dealing with a home-owner after presented with Gates' idea, yet continued to escalate the situation. Gates was right in refusing the officer entry to his home; under US law, officers CANNOT demand entry to your home without a warrant. Good on the professor for exercising the few rights Americans still have regarding privacy and property.

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    Charges dropped against Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr.; arrest was 'regrettable'
    Excuse me? Did you read the police report? The facts you present are WRONG. Thank you, and have a nice day.

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    This is definitely the case. It's absolutely mind-boggling that people are supporting the arrest of Gates on his own property for doing what he did.
    I watch cops alot and see many times cops taking down disorderly behavior in people's house all the time. They have to deal with people, on their own property or not, who may or may not at any given time pull a weapon on them. They have the authority to do what they have to do to not get to that situation. Gates was in the police report as starting to get aggressive so they nipped it in the butt and took him into custody- seems pretty standard procedure to me. It wouldn't have happened if he cooperated, simple as that.
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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I watch cops alot and see many times cops taking down disorderly behavior in people's house all the time. They have to deal with people, on their own property or not, who may or may not at any given time pull a weapon on them. They have the authority to do what they have to do to not get to that situation. Gates was in the police report as starting to get aggressive so they nipped it in the butt and took him into custody- seems pretty standard procedure to me. It wouldn't have happened if he cooperated, simple as that.
    People seem to think that just because you're on or around your own property, you seem to be able to do whatever the hell you want. Hello?

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    I watch cops alot and see many times cops taking down disorderly behavior in people's house all the time. They have to deal with people, on their own property or not, who may or may not at any given time pull a weapon on them. They have the authority to do what they have to do to not get to that situation. Gates was in the police report as starting to get aggressive so they nipped it in the butt and took him into custody- seems pretty standard procedure to me. It wouldn't have happened if he cooperated, simple as that.
    And I have seen police use unnecessary force, provoke people into getting worked up and exacerbating situations, lie in order to attempt to gain the power they need to do what they want, etc... etc... The fact of the matter is that Gates did not have to comply with the officers because it was his damn property; all that he was required by law to do was identify himself, which he did.
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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Can you imagine if Bush had called an officer "stupid"? MSNBC would have led with it every night until the next election. Instead, they'll bury this is a week.

    I think this will haunt Obama for the rest of his presidency. He nothing more than another Al Sharpton from here on.
    Funny you should say that. MSNBC was addressing what Obama said last night, and based on my understanding, it disagreed with what Obama had done. But I guess that would take away your little rant, wouldn't it?

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    And I have seen police use unnecessary force, provoke people into getting worked up and exacerbating situations, lie in order to attempt to gain the power they need to do what they want, etc... etc... The fact of the matter is that Gates did not have to comply with the officers because it was his damn property; all that he was required by law to do was identify himself, which he did.
    Sigh. Yet another person who hasn't read the police report. Oh, that's right--it's full of lies.

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Funny you should say that. MSNBC was addressing what Obama said last night, and based on my understanding, it disagreed with what Obama had done. But I guess that would take away your little rant, wouldn't it?
    I said they'd bury it in a WEEK. They'll soon figure out a way to spin out of this. They'll dig into this officers background, or they'll figure out a way to connect him to Cheney and Iraq.

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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Sigh. Yet another person who hasn't read the police report. Oh, that's right--it's full of lie
    I actually have read the police report and, while being unreasonable, Gates nowhere broke the law. It's not illegal to yell at someone from your porch.
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    Re: Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Well, this officers opinion is certainly different than that of his employer, Cambridge PD, who have not only decided against persuing charges on this matter but have called the hole matter "regretable" and have said it should not be seen as demeaning Gates' character.
    The whole matter was regrettable. Don't think anyone really argues that. Gates may be a race-baiting blowhard, but I haven't seen anyone arguing he's a scuzz-bucket criminal lowlife, either. Getting arrested for going full retard on a cop means little more than Gates had a bad day. I can't count the number of times I've had to bail friends out of jail because they've had similarly bad days, and I've never thought less of them because of it.

    People get angry, then they get stupid, then they get embarrassed. It happens--this is only a big deal because Gates decided to make it a big deal, and then Dear Leader decided to one-up his buddy and make it a nationwide deal.

    Gates and Dear Leader == Dumb and Dumber.

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