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If someone says they hate blacks, that is not illegal. Acting on the hate to do an act may be illegal depending on the act.

Again, criticizing or condemning something is not illegal in the U.S.. Nor should it be.

You better go tell Don Imus that he has a killer wrongful termination case.

The thing that smotes Leftists the most, is that they only condemn Christians as homophobes, when every organized religion in the world considers homosexuality a sin. We never hear Libbos go after Muslims for their disdain of homosexuality. I guess that wouldn't be PC. It's only PC to go after Christians.
 
IYou don't have the right to take away their rights.

Condemning or criticizing Christians is not taking away their rights.
 
When did I insult Christians? All I said was that it amuses me that a lot of them miss the entire concept of hell and view it as a location rather than a state of being.

I never thought that Christians believed that hell is a location. They may refer to hell in terms of being a, "location", and that's where you're confused.
 
Condemning or criticizing Christians is not taking away their rights.

Intimidating them, so as to make them afraid to express their opinion is, though. That's the whole motive with the Libbos labeling: racist, homophobe, xenophobe, etc. It's used to scare people into keeping their opinion to themselves.
 
You better go tell Don Imus that he has a killer wrongful termination case.

The thing that smotes Leftists the most, is that they only condemn Christians as homophobes, when every organized religion in the world considers homosexuality a sin. We never hear Libbos go after Muslims for their disdain of homosexuality. I guess that wouldn't be PC. It's only PC to go after Christians.

Freedom of speech, does not mean there are not consequences to that speech.

If I go into my work and call my boss "A sanctimonious ****ing asshole", chances are I'm not going to be working there. It isn't illegal for me to say he's an asshole, but it isn't illegal for him to fire me for misconduct either.

Freedom of speech means I can say it and it isn't illegal for me to say it. Freedom of speech doesn't mean there aren't consequences for what I say.

Is this REALLY that hard of a concept for you to understand?
 
You better go tell Don Imus that he has a killer wrongful termination case.

The thing that smotes Leftists the most, is that they only condemn Christians as homophobes, when every organized religion in the world considers homosexuality a sin. We never hear Libbos go after Muslims for their disdain of homosexuality. I guess that wouldn't be PC. It's only PC to go after Christians.
You should better educate yourself on world religions.
 
Freedom of speech, does not mean there are not consequences to that speech.

If I go into my work and call my boss "A sanctimonious ****ing asshole", chances are I'm not going to be working there. It isn't illegal for me to say he's an asshole, but it isn't illegal for him to fire me for misconduct either.

Freedom of speech means I can say it and it isn't illegal for me to say it. Freedom of speech doesn't mean there aren't consequences for what I say.

Is this REALLY that hard of a concept for you to understand?

But, at the same time, if you're at work and say that you believe homosexuality is a sin, you boss can't fire you for misconduct. It's not that hard for me to understand, at all.
 
Intimidating them, so as to make them afraid to express their opinion is, though.

No it isn't illegal. Show me the law that says I can't criticize Christianity.

That's the whole motive with the Libbos labeling: racist, homophobe, xenophobe, etc. It's used to scare people into keeping their opinion to themselves.

The same could be said with how the right condemns homosexuals and Islam. Neither of which is illegal.
 
I never thought that Christians believed that hell is a location. They may refer to hell in terms of being a, "location", and that's where you're confused.
I know many Christians who think hell is a place of fire and brimstone and eternal suffering.
 
But, at the same time, if you're at work and say that you believe homosexuality is a sin, you boss can't fire you for misconduct. It's not that hard for me to understand, at all.

He can if those discussions disrupt the work environment or are not appropriate to that work environment.

Again the speech isn't illegal, however, there are consequences sometimes for that speech.

BTW that also goes in reverse. If I am at work and I say "Christians are idiots for believing in a made-up god", that could create a hostile working environment and I can be reprimanded or fired.
 
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You should better educate yourself on world religions.

You should post some docs proving me wrong instead of just trying to insult me. I was speaking of organized, accepted, mainstream religions. I didn't think I had to note that. Obviously, there are some dendrapheliac'ish religions out there that think that homosexuality is perfectly fine.
 
He can if those discussions disrupt the work environment or are not appropriate to that work environment.

Again the speech isn't illegal, however, there are consequences sometimes for that speech.

BTW that also goes in reverse. If I am at work and I say "Christians are idiots for believing in a made-up god", that could create a hostile working environment and I can be reprimanded or fired.

I would love to see that one go down...LOL!!!
 
You should post some docs proving me wrong instead of just trying to insult me. I was speaking of organized, accepted, mainstream religions. I didn't think I had to note that. Obviously, there are some dendrapheliac'ish religions out there that think that homosexuality is perfectly fine.
So what do you mean when you say "accepted" religions? Are Buddhism and Hinduism not considered "accepted" by your standards?
 
So what do you mean when you say "accepted" religions? Are Buddhism and Hinduism not considered "accepted" by your standards?

Post a link, or let the flame bait go, dude.
 
Post a link, or let the flame bait go, dude.
Answer my question and I will gladly post a link. Do you consider Buddhism and Hinduism to be "organized, accepted, mainstream" religions?
 
Answer my question and I will gladly post a link. Do you consider Buddhism and Hinduism to be "organized, accepted, mainstream" religions?

Post a link, or let is go. If you have to ask, then you obviously don't have anything to back up your point of view.


But, I will tell you now that neither Buddhism, nor Hinduism condone homosexuality. Buddhism doesn't address it one way, or another, but does say that you must approach religion based on what you believe to be true. Hinduism condemns homosexuality the same way Christianity and Islam do. However, just like Christianity, Hindusim is interpreted in different ways and some Hindus accept homosexuality as being ok.

You still gonna post a link?
 
But, I will tell you now that neither Buddhism, nor Hinduism condone homosexuality.

Moving the goalposts now, are we? I never claimed any religion condoned homosexuality. Here are your words:

The thing that smotes Leftists the most, is that they only condemn Christians as homophobes, when every organized religion in the world considers homosexuality a sin.

Very dishonest of you.
 
Moving the goalposts now, are we? I never claimed any religion condoned homosexuality. Here are your words:



Very dishonest of you.

No link, eh?
 
No link, eh?

Here you go, here is my link refuting your original statement that all "major, accepted, organized" religions view homosexuality as a "sin":

The fourth of the eight steps is called Samma kammanta: Right conduct or right behavior. It has been stated as:
"Do not destroy any living creature; take only what is given to you; do not commit any unlawful sexual act." 9
The prohibition against engaging in sexual misconduct is also listed as the third of the five Buddhist precepts. Sometimes it is expressed as simply forbidding adultery.
When applied to sexual behavior, this step would seem to imply that one must:
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Practice safe sex to minimize the chance of passing an STD to a sexual partner that could, in the case of HIV and HPV, cause death.
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Engage in only consensual sex. It is a bit of a stretch, but forced or manipulative sexual behavior could be interpreted as theft.
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Avoid "unlawful" sexual acts. This is a difficult phrase to interpret.
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From a legal standpoint, the U.S. Supreme court decided (Lawrence v. Texas, 2003) that all private consensual sexual activity between adults is lawful. Unlawful sex in the U.S. would include activity between an adult and a child, sex in public, sex that is forced, sex for money, etc.

Buddhism and homosexuality
 
That all depends on which kind of Buddhism you believe. In China, Buddhists believe that homosexuality is a sin.

But, don't you have to wonder what an, "unlawful sexual act", is? You probably don't think that deeply.
 
That all depends on which kind of Buddhism you believe. In China, Buddhists believe that homosexuality is a sin.
Link?

But, don't you have to wonder what an, "unlawful sexual act", is?
It explained in the quoted portion of my post what an "unlawful sexual act" is... :doh

You probably don't think that deeply.
Don't whine about insults anymore, lest you be a hypocrite.
 
No problem, babe. I don't mind supporting my ****, at all.
So you've proven that Chinese Buddhism considers homosexuality to be a sin. That does reflect the religion as a whole, so my assertion that you were incorrect when saying all "major, accepted, organized religions consider homosexuality a sin" stands.
 
More like if you treat being gay is something sinful and shameful that must be dealt with before Jesus sees it, you're homophobic.

Basically, accept gays as the left demands or be demonized. Ahh the old liberal "tolerance and diversity" on display.

I can accept a gay man and dislike his being gay and not be homophobic.. well at least by rationale standards.
 
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