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    Tories beat Labour in by-election

    The Conservatives have won the Norwich North by-election with a majority of more than 7,000.

    The winning candidate Chloe Smith, 27, will become the House of Commons' youngest MP when she takes her seat after the summer recess.

    It was the first Westminster election since the MPs' expenses furore.

    The former MP, Labour's Ian Gibson, quit when the party barred him from standing at the next general election over his expenses claims
    BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Tories beat Labour in by-election

    Brown will not be happy.
    Norwich has been in Labour hands for a decade


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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    I like this story it's encouraging short but sweet. Now if throw the crooks out would catch on here we might be able to dismantle the the Axis of Anti America evil Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. We could then maybe force some logic back into the discussions and actions in Washington DC.
    People need to stand up to and end this Axis before they get Obama's way.
    Barack Hussein Obama: "Mar 15, 2008 ... "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it".

    "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they’ve tried everything else".
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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    I feel a conservative revolution coming in our once-proud parent country!

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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    Let me add my congratulations to the the winner as I put the present day "labor party" right up there with illogical, left-wing, socialist American Democrats who will do anything to subvert the capitalistic system that formerly made the US great! But, to acknowledge Councilman's quote, Obama seeks to change that while more conservative ideologies are making their moves in many parts of the world.

    Atlas is shrugging... has anybody noticed?
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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I like this story it's encouraging short but sweet. Now if throw the crooks out would catch on here we might be able to dismantle the the Axis of Anti America evil Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. We could then maybe force some logic back into the discussions and actions in Washington DC.
    People need to stand up to and end this Axis before they get Obama's way.
    Barack Hussein Obama: "Mar 15, 2008 ... "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it".

    "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they’ve tried everything else".
    Sir Winston Churchill
    Not that the torries are any less crooked. Heres some examples from the last time they were in power.

    Cash-for-questions affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | NI police collusion 'confirmed'
    Arms-to-Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    Humiliating byelection defeat for Brown as Labour loses Norwich North | Politics | guardian.co.uk

    David Cameron has inflicted a humiliating byelection defeat on Gordon Brown as the Conservatives beat Labour into second place in Norwich North.

    In the first electoral test since the MPs' expenses scandal rocked Westminster, the Tories' Chloe Smith won the Norfolk seat with a majority of 7,348 and, aged just 27, becomes the youngest MP in the Commons.

    Labour's defeat, in a seat held comfortably by the party since 1997, is the fifth byelection blow Brown has suffered since he took over at No 10.

    If the result was repeated across the country in a general election, the Tories would be swept to power with a Commons majority of 218, analysis by the Press Association news agency showed.
    Do we really want UK to swing from majority Labour to majority, unbeatable Conservative in HOC?


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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I feel a conservative revolution coming in our once-proud parent country!
    This by election is different to others.
    Too premature to judge the impact


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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    I would not put too much into this.

    The reason that there was a by-election was that the guy in the seat was kicked out of Labour and that in turn meant he sad "sod it" and quit, there by forcing a by-election during a time where he knew that Labour were hurting. Basically it was payback.

    On top of that, the way that labour choose their candidate was an "issue" as the candidate was basically chosen by the big wigs in the party and not the local labour party.

    On top of that, you had a good looking woman against a man from a party that it is popular to hate..

    It was a no brainer in the end and now they have the youngest member of parliament (27 years old).

    But it is a long time till national elections and all it takes is a cock up by the conservatives and they back at even with labour.
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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    But it is a long time till national elections and all it takes is a cock up by the conservatives and they back at even with labour.
    Conservatives have nothing to cock up and Labour/Brown have done so horrifically that it wouldn't matter. So they pretty much have these elections in the bag. It is almost 90+% certain Parliament will go blue next year.

    And even if they did mess up, the public trust Cameron more than Brown or Labour in a recent poll so suggests that it wouldn't matter.

    And the incumbent was not kicked out, he was told he was deselected and barred for standing again next election. He threw a fit and resigned triggering a by election

    And this is significant for a number of reasons.
    This is in the North, Labour stronghold.
    It is the 3rd by election lost by a massive swing to conservatives and the devestating loss, 7,000 majority cannot be shrugged away in a place where Labour have held for 12 years
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    Re: Tories beat Labour in by-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Conservatives have nothing to cock up and Labour/Brown have done so horrifically that it wouldn't matter. So they pretty much have these elections in the bag. It is almost 90+% certain Parliament will go blue next year.
    Oh I agree the conservatives as it looks now will most likely win. However politics can be a funny thing and since there is a long way to the next election then anything can happen. Hilary Clinton was a "lock" for the Democratic spot 2 years ago after all.

    And even if they did mess up, the public trust Cameron more than Brown or Labour in a recent poll so suggests that it wouldn't matter.
    For now yes. But one screw up by Cameron and that can change fast.

    And the incumbent was not kicked out, he was told he was deselected and barred for standing again next election. He threw a fit and resigned triggering a by election
    Same thing.

    This is in the North, Labour stronghold.
    It is the 3rd by election lost by a massive swing to conservatives and the devestating loss, 7,000 majority cannot be shrugged away in a place where Labour have held for 12 years
    They actually held it for far longer than that. The conservatives have only held the seat for under a decade the last 60 years or so.

    However if you look at the numbers. Turn out was WAY down, and it was traditional labour supporters that stayed away. This in turn meant that it was far easier for the Conservatives to turn the labour majority to a conservative majority, which is what happened. Say last election there was 10000 votes in the district, with 7000 going to Labour and 3000 going to Conservatives. Say this election only 6000 showed up, the 3000 conservative voters, 1000 protest voters and 2000 labour voters.. that would mean the conservatives would have a majority of 2000 vs being behind by 4000 the last election. Turn out is often quite critical in such elections.

    I have no doubt that labour is in trouble and the labour base is pissed at Brown and the party. The way they demonstrate this is by either staying away from the polls or voting the opposition in insignificant elections (EU and by-elections).

    But when it comes to a national election the question is if the labour supporters will turn out or not, and if they do will they risk 4 years of a conservative government by "protest" voting or not turning out.. time will tell.
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